Have valid drivers license, don't have ARC: legal to drive?

[Mataiou]

not many have the resolve to argue/fight to get what they are entitled to.

We r troublemakers mate haha!

[Satellite_TV]

@justintaiwan

I feel like I’ve had nearly every immigration status possible in Taiwan

How about being stateless for almost a year? Care to try that one? lol

My Taiwan drivers license never expired when I had my ARC cancelled and was waiting for my TARC.

[justintaiwan]

@springonion

Thanks for the clarification…so you held a visa that had 6+mths on it?

Yes. I had a working holiday visa.

@springonion

Gotta argue and fight with officials

What situation in Taiwan do foreigners not have to argue with the government? I’ve had to argue with the government every single time I’ve tried to do something.

@springonion

Just curious, how exactly did you know your licence was still valid?

1. There’s an expiry date on the card.

2. You can see your licence details online.

3. Your point is that it expires with your ARC… how is that possible when I never had one?

[Satellite_TV]

@Mataiou

not many have the resolve to argue/fight to get what they are entitled to.

We r troublemakers mate haha!

Reminds me of this shadow I had back in the 1990’s.

[springonion]

@justintaiwan

Yes. I had a working holiday visa.

Ahh ok!! Totally forgot about this Visa as I’ve only encountered a handful of ppl who came to Taiwan on the WHV.

@justintaiwan

Your point is that it expires with your ARC… how is that possible when I never had one?

Point noted. So I guess the OP is good to go then. Cheers!

[Satellite_TV]

@springonion

Totally forgot about this Visa as I’ve only encountered a handful of ppl who came to Taiwan on the WHV.

How about Taiwan Nationals who get right to stay for 1 year visiting relatives? They may not yet have a TARC?

[Mataiou]

@Satellite_TV

How about Taiwan Nationals who get right to stay for 1 year visiting relatives?

mentioned that

[justintaiwan]

@springonion

a handful of ppl who came to Taiwan on the WHV.

I wouldn’t recommend it. The program is supposed to be reciprocal. In Taiwan it’s reciprocal on paper and not in practice. I got good at arguing with the typical idiots really fast. That was my introduction to Taiwan. My first entry to Taiwan was WHV, had never been before that.

[Satellite_TV]

@springonion

Ahh ok!! Totally forgot about this Visa as I’ve only encountered a handful of ppl who came to Taiwan on the WHV.

OK In my son’s case. He was born in March 1991 in Taichung. His ARC expired in March 2011. Yet DMV extended his license until March 2020. He had no Taiwan passport. No visa to be in Taiwan. OH yeah he got DMV to use his English name and not Chinese name. Funny how they could not put in his first name middle name and surname. Police in Taiwan would be like eh? How is it you only have your first name on your license. lol.

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@Mataiou

This logic was actually challenged quite some time ago by another good chap who argued, and won against the MOTC and DMV, that the licence is something completely detached from the ARC

Richard Hartzell?

[Mataiou]

I think that is the guy, don’t recall the name though

[justintaiwan]

@Satellite_TV

Funny how they could not put in his first name middle name and surname

Mine has all five ‘words’ if my name on it, in English

Your son is about my age!

[Satellite_TV]

@justintaiwan

Your son is about my age!

So many young guns on this forum.

[Mataiou]

But still all older than me hahaha

[boatmotor]

@Mataiou

This logic was actually challenged quite some time ago by another good chap who argued, and won against the MOTC and DMV, that the licence is something completely detached from the ARC, it is not dependent on your permit of stay and hence cannot be linked to the expiration or revokation/issuance of an ARC.

I’d like to know more about this so that I may do so myself. Which MOTC office did they go to apply? What did they argue? Who did they speak to? Thanks.

[Mataiou]

it was long time ago, my licence is already detached from my ARC since myARC will expire in 2025, while my licence in 2028. I went to bade rd DMV in Taipei and just gave my HK licence for conversion, my passport, my arc, the health certificates and the notarisation of the HK licence by TECO HK.

[boatmotor]

@justintaiwan

https://egate.immigration.gov.tw/NIA_OnlineApply_inter/foreignApply/foreignApplyForm.action

It’s also one of the reasons specifically mentioned as a reason to apply for a UI number

Hey Justin, thanks for providing the link. I noticed that this form seems to require an “Entry & Exit Permit No”, which, according to Wikipedia, is a travel document issued to PRC residents and citizens. Any idea how one would complete this form if you’re not from China?

[justintaiwan]

Only NWOHr and people from China can apply online. Everyone else has to go to NIA to apply, it doesn’t take long though

[boatmotor]

So I tried to apply using UIN as you mentioned, but was refused. Perhaps I should try in Taichung like you did. Do you recall who you talked to about this?