Head to Head, The Music Never Stopped being argumentative Thread

That’s cutting edge stuff there. lol
It’s like this one on the scale of cringe: If you can’t fuck your truest of true lurves, beer goggles ON then! :laughing:

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Rocky Racoon wasn’t too bad. It’s no, ‘Rosemary, Lily and the Jack of Hearts,’ but it’s in that ball park for story telling.

I like Maxwell’s Silver Hammer, but I heard the word that the band er, did…not…clucks tongue.

The Beatles: Arguably one of the most influential bands that ever lived, who hasn’t heard of them?

The Kinks: I had to look them up and recognized only that song Van Halen covered.

Rolling Stone agrees with me:

Yeah, I wouldn’t brag about that.

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Is it? Arguable? I’m certainly not arguing that point a’tall.

You asked head to head, I gave my two cents. Elvis Costello gave the write up in Rolling Stone. I’m not saying they are the most influential band, but compared to the Kinks it seems there is really no comparison (except considering Van Halen covers, where the Kinks clearly win out)…

Well, of course, people can interpret it that way. When I first heard it at age 13 (1966 or 1967), I viewed it as something not far off from a marriage proposal. And for what it’s worth, Wikipedia, at least, seems to go a ways in support of my naive adolescent interpretation:

–“Love You To,” Wikipedia

In my understanding of the example you posted, it doesn’t seem quite apposite, since Stephen Stills’ attitude toward Judy Collins involved carrying a torch for her unto something resembling clinical depression (but again, that’s just my understanding of it). In reference to another song, Ms. Collins reportedly said:

–Wikipedia, “Suite: Judy Blue Eyes

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You’re absolutely correct. I did say this though:

So, song for song, I will stay, but overall, at any level of comparison, band v band, yes, The Beatles were far more commercially successful, ergo, influential than the Kinks.

Yeah, it’s a sneaky one that. Bang bang.

Maybe I am an uber snob but that is like saying tap water in Kinshasa is better than Badoit

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I’m spinning this now, yes with an Obi strip

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And wondering if Kinks vs Talking Heads is a better and more funner debate. Some serious Beatle heads up in here.

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Thaaaaaaaank you.

Meh, I think it is a boring song and couldn’t finish it because the vocals annoyed me. If you want to pick a specific level I could pick a specific song; last one I remember listening to was Tax Man back in quarantine. Anyways, no accounting for taste; I also don’t care for the Grateful Dead and think they are waaaay overrated but I know you’re a fan. My favourite band is probably either Tool or Propagandhi, but even if you are a musician I can understand you not being into them. Music is funny like that.

I could probably find another source that puts the Beatles on top and doesn’t mention the other band (what were they called again?)…

Why bring it up then? Not liking something and believing that thing is overrated? The irony is staggering. lol

Also, age is a big issue here. I’ll be 54 this year. :idunno:

I thought I explained this, because


You’d have to explain the irony, but no need I think I’m done in here.


Anyways, I thought you were soliciting opinions. It seems I’ve struck a nerve by not sharing yours, sorry that I came in here and I’ll just mute this thread now.

Are you serious? You made a claim. OK. It differed from mine. OK.

But seriously, if you can’t read the tone of the thread properly…just go then. Why give yourself a headache? lol

Rolling Stone or mass publications that do rankings are mouthpieces of majority tastes. In music, fashion, art etc.; those who prefer the avant-garde or have eclectic tastes, will find such suburban tastes to be very limiting.

If I am socialising in a group where I do not know people well, and people talk about music and artists such as Gainsbourg, Haza, Captain Beefheart, or French ye ye music, I might be woken from the slumber that usually accompanies most of life’s mediocre conversations. If it is Beatles, Bryan Adams or Bono, I will not be as interested and will realise the company has pablum tastes (not that there is anything wrong with that).

If people start talking about tv shows and the comedy Friends I know it is time to have a bowel movement/massive shart.

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Old guy stuff, I guess. We tended to sit around pondering the meanings of some Beatles and Dylan lyrics. We were probably wrong about a lot of stuff, but both types of lyrics sometimes tended toward the cryptic.

I think the older kids in my generation wanted to be somewhere else. Maybe that’s why for all their hippie-dippy stuff, they really dug space exploration, the moon landing, and so on.

Back then, when I’d finished all the Robert E. Howard Conan stories (at least the ones in those paperbacks), I tried someone else’s Conan stories, and they just didn’t do the same thing for me. The best I can describe it is to say the Howard ones could take me somewhere else (and the other ones couldn’t).

Same with the Beatles, Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, and some others. They let me out of the fence for a while.

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