Help you learning Chinese

I am a Taiwanese in Taipei. I am willing to teach you Chinese Manderin or Taiwanese. If you encouter struggle with learning, I think I can help you. Girls are preferred because I am a female. I can correct your accent or make your sentence better. I had studied teaching in my university(I was graduated from a teacher school). I know the difficulty in learning. If your Chinese is good enough to communicate with me, you might not need my help. If you just studied Chinese for less than one year or your oral Chinese is not good, I think I can help you (But you must be able to speak English).

Chinese is interesting and wonderful art. I love it. I am very glad that so many people would like to know it and let it be part of your life.
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I’m a German female student. I learned Chinese more or less 1 year but of course my communication skills are not too good. I’m searching for someone who could correct my writing in pinyin and my spoken sentences. Would you help me and what are your conditions?

never ask a taiwanese to help you with pinyin…most of my friends don’t know any pinyin at all…=)

Why study pinyin??? Zhuyin is better isn’t it? Besides books aren’t written in pinyin are they?

What’s zhuyin? Is that BoPoMoFo/MPS (Mandarin Phonetic Symbols) that the Taiwanese kids learn in school? I’m not familiar with zhuyin.

Well, I had in Germany a course for Chinese which used pinyin for transcription as the other people of the course are going to mainland China and there they use pinyin. So I was forced to learn it and now I’m used to it… I wouldn’t say there isn’t a better transcription- but now to learn Bopomofo would take too much time which I won’t use in actually practicing Chinese.

sabine i myself learned pinyin in school and if you’re not a total beginner, when you go to taiwan, you don’t have to learn zhuyin. it won’t help you much anyways and the teacher all know pinyin, you just have to ask them to write it for you as well.
after a while you wan’t need either of those, so i don’t really see, why you would need a pinyin teacher…
trust me, the average taiwanese, unless a chinese teacher, is not familiar with pinyin…

viel spass in taiwan

I think the Zhuyin system is better than Hanyu Pinyin. It is easy to learn, it took me two days (though I already knew Pinyin) using flashcards. The textbooks I generally use have both Hanyu pinyin and Zhuyin. However, I also like to read the Mandarin Daily News in order to practice reading, and it uses Zhuyin.

I still don’t understand why anyone coming to Taiwan with the intention of living here (or just to study Chinese) would study pinyin over zhuyin. Zhuyin is easier to use, better reflects the pronunciation, and teachers (as well as most language exchanges) know it better than pinyin. Not to mention there are loads of kids’ books so you can practice more.
Anyway, just my thoughts on the subject.

Yes, alwayslol, zhuyin is BoPoMoFo.

cause if you start studying chinese somewhere else but taiwan, all you learn is pinyin. no word about zhuyin and it’s quite a hassle to learn zhuyin, cause besides using it in TAiwan, I don’t really see the point of having it at all…
What I hate most about it, is that I’m unable to search for books in the local library on my own, cause I have no clue of how to type chinese characters with zhuyin…ggrrr…that really does get on my nerv!!!

So let me see if I get this straight Mesheel,
First you said…“sabine i myself learned pinyin in school and if you’re not a total beginner, when you go to Taiwan, you don’t have to learn zhuyin. it won’t help you much anyways and the teacher all know pinyin, you just have to ask them to write it for you as well.”
But then you came back and said, “cause if you start studying Chinese somewhere else but Taiwan, all you learn is pinyin. no word about zhuyin and it’s quite a hassle to learn zhuyin, cause besides using it in Taiwan, I don’t really see the point of having it at all…
What I hate most about it, is that I’m unable to search for books in the local library on my own, cause I have no clue of how to type Chinese characters with zhuyin…ggrrr…that really does get on my nerv!!!”

So as long as you aren’t going to do any research at a local library you don’t need to study zhuyin, right?

But then again…ludahai said, " think the Zhuyin system is better than Hanyu Pinyin. It is easy to learn, it took me two days (though I already knew Pinyin) using flashcards. The textbooks I generally use have both Hanyu pinyin and Zhuyin. However, I also like to read the Mandarin Daily News in order to practice reading, and it uses Zhuyin."

I don’t think two days of studying is a big deal if it helps.
My keyboard at work has the zhuyin characters on the keys, doesn’t the computers at the library have the same thing?

Neither zhuyin nor pinyin are better or worse than each other. You just have to consider a few points of convenience.

In Taiwan zhuyin will be useful for use with Taiwanese who know it.

Outsideof Taiwan noone uses zhuyin, so most learning materials will use pinyin.

Pinyin is much easier to enter into a keyboard.

Pinyin is easier to look up in indexes (easier to remember alphabetical order than bo-po-mo order).

Cellphones in Taiwan will have zhuyin input.

Internet cafes and other shared computers will probably have zhuyin input but not pinyin input installed.

My conclusion - if you want to learn Chinese in Taiwan, learn pinyin and zhuyin (both well).

Brian

well my point was, that besides for typing characters in public places in taiwan, i never ever needed zhuyin in all those years i studied chinese. i never was willing to spend 2 days on learning it, cause i had more important things to do…

[quote]well my point was, that besides for typing characters in public places in Taiwan, I never ever needed zhuyin in all those years i studied Chinese. I never was willing to spend 2 days on learning it, cause I had more important things to do…
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Were you studying in Taiwan? You wouldn’t have been able to ask Taiwanese for the pinyin fo a word. You wouldn’t have been able to read kids books and use the zhuyin for words you didn’t know. You wouldn’t have been able to send Chinese charcters on your phone. You wouldn’t have been able to read the Guoyu Ribao newspaper with zhuyin to help.

So youmight not have NEEDED it, but it’s certainly helpful.

Brian

Vannyel - I completely agree with you.

Mesheel - If you are going to learn Chinese, it will take you years, not simply two days. If you can’t dedicate two days to learning Zhuyin, I have to question your desire to learn Chinese.

Personally, I believe that Zhuyin does a better of job of capturing the sounds of Chinese, especially the

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Personally, I believe that Zhuyin does a better of job of capturing the sounds of Chinese, especially the

[quote=“ludahai”]Vannyel - I completely agree with you.

Mesheel - If you are going to learn Chinese, it will take you years, not simply two days. If you can’t dedicate two days to learning Zhuyin, I have to question your desire to learn Chinese.

Personally, I believe that Zhuyin does a better of job of capturing the sounds of Chinese, especially the

:frowning: :shock: :cry: :frowning: :frowning: I’m pittying myself enough lately, but thanks Jive Turkey… :smiley:

The beginning posts on this thread concerned learning Chinese. First the offer to help someone learn Chinese, then the comment about pinyin, and finally, Mesheel’s statement about Taiwanese not knowing pinyin. This was followed by my suggestion to learn zhuyin. I stand by my suggestion based on the fact that of the 10 or so language exchange partners I have had in Taiwan, none of them knew pinyin, all of them knew zhuyin. Zhuyin is just as easy to learn as pinyin, just as useful (if not more so - if you live in Taiwan), and, as Jive Turkey pointed out on another thread, even the children are familiar with it.
If I decide to relocate to China then I guess the opposite will be true and I will study pinyin.