Hi-fi cables

Is this a typo?

No. It just means they donā€™t want anyone to place an order, e.g., when they donā€™t have the item in stock. (Iā€™m pretty sure weā€™ve discussed this before.)

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I was being sarcastic. Sorry, if you looked up their actual price, itā€™s not far off. That cable should cost 500nt if that.

Itā€™s the Nordost Odin cable.

Looks like youā€™re right about that being the actual price range for this line of cables then. I suggest buying a different cable.

Even if I could afford it, for that price itā€™s better be able to pick up and drop people off. Itā€™s ridiculous that people would pay this money for electrical cables.

Given the price I sure hope the conductor is solid gold.

I mean the sound system at vinyl decision sounds great and theyā€™re using bog standard stuff.

Yeah I donā€™t think either of us is the target market for these cables. I assume somebody is buying them.

Are they finally available in Taiwan?

Based on what I see at Shopee, they are.

But honestly, if you can afford their cables, Iā€™d rather just put those money in an index fund somewhere. This kind of spend just tells me that either thereā€™s a lot of idiots out there, or there is money laundering going on.

I donā€™t know how much more you can improve a power cable, but no way it should cost nearly 10,000 US for it.

Cables make a difference. Itā€™s not like standard cables will destroy the sound of a good system, but higher quality cables can create different results that just sound better. I once had a nice CD player that sounded great out of the box, but upgrading to a higher quality power cord (otherwise ordinary, like one for a computer), at some cost, undoubtedly made a big difference.

There are professional settings, and some people just have that much money. Hereā€™s one look at them

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Iā€™m quite skeptical, especially in the case of power cables as opposed to cables transmitting actual signals. Whatever mechanism is supposed to be going on here, itā€™s difficult to believe that the last meter or two of ultra-expensive 99.999999%-pure-whatever cabling is going to make much of a difference after the electricity has already passed through dozens to hundreds of kilometers of transmission and distribution infrastructure.

And if itā€™s purported to be a local interference/electromagnetic fields thing, youā€™d think those would be difficult to avoid no matter which cable is supplying the power to the particular audio device being listened to (all the electrical cables running through the personā€™s walls, for example).

I think thereā€™s some comparison here with sensitive scientific equipment, which would presumably be more affected by whateverā€™s supposed to be responsible for poorer audio output using regular cables than audio signals output from speakers and listened to with human earsā€¦ and I donā€™t think power cables costing anywhere near that much need to be used for those.

I suppose if I spent that much on a cable, which Iā€™m not going to of course, Iā€™d want to think it sounded better tooā€¦

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I hear you, but itā€™s a component in the system like any other. Hi-fi equipment can be wildly expensive based on components used, and there are wide differences in sound profiles depending. Itā€™s not really so surprising. You wouldnā€™t use something like that in a cheap system (the article I linked notes that it will expose any weaknesses ruthlessly.)

Youā€™d think so, I often wondered about it, but Iā€™m vouching for it in the one case at least, and Iā€™m someone who gets pleasure out of using a system that achieves value for little money, as little as possible! Thatā€™s not an uncommon ethos in the audio world, and you can find many objective reports about particular pieces of equipment. In the case of the power cord I read many reports from people vouching for that pairing (it became quite common for users of that particular CD player, known for delivering high value for a reasonable cost) before making the purchase.

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Thereā€™s all kinds of snake oil in the audiophile world.

Speaker cables, you know those lamp cords, they make excellent speaker cable. Interconnects probably makes a bigger difference, but really itā€™s to get rid of RF interference.

There have been gadgets that somehow bevels the edge of some CD to make it sound ā€œbetterā€. CD is digital, absent scratches that causes skips or whatever, it doesnā€™t affect their sound quality one bit (not to mention they have robust error correction already).

All that money is better spent on better speakers or amps.

There is, but there are things that work too, and many different possible combinations with their own tradeoffs, highly dependent on how much people are willing to spend. No one would be spending that kind of money on cables unless they had the resources to buy equally pricey amps and speakers. Itā€™s all relative.

You might also think one digital CD player is roughly as good as any other, but Iā€™ve heard significant differences myself. Nowadays I make do with the player in my PC :slight_smile: My last one my guy was surprised I even wanted one :slight_smile:

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I had a decent pair of shielded cables lying around, and I think this thread motivated me to get a connector to hook up my $80 Chinese T-amp with them. I think maybe it sounds a bit richer lol. Anyway, may as well use them.

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Man, read the room. They just donā€™t want to take down the listing but donā€™t want you buying the cable right now because most likely they donā€™t have any.

No actually, we figured out above that given a typical Taiwan markup, thatā€™s about what they cost.

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Yeah, my post above suggesting it was this more common situation on Shopee was wrong.

TL wins this round. :face_with_peeking_eye:

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Whoever buys these cables have already spent heaps more on great speakers and amps.

If you look at it the other way, if you spend a small fortune on the sound system, while using so-so power cables that doesnā€™t bring out the best from the system you spent money onā€¦ wouldnā€™t it be a waste? The system is only as good as the weakest link

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The weak link could well be inside the wall.

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I honestly think if thereā€™s a weak link, it isnā€™t the cable. It just gets ridiculous as you get into the higher and higher end, with systems that only puts out say 50 watts per channel but the amp weights like 200 pounds. Yes I know you really donā€™t need that many watts unless you are playing at a large venue that needs the volume, but it just gets ridiculous. I got a pair of Usher S520 driven by a 20 watt mini amp that costs 450nt, and it doesnā€™t sound bad at normal listening volume!

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