Well, that’s uncalled for.
I’m sorry, I fail to see what the fuck his nationality has to do with this. Fucktards come from all countries, as the starting of this thread proves.[/quote]
I have utilized my awesome modpower and clarified the title.
Rage on![/quote]
But the bust is ancient history. The article is about the sentencing. 
Or maybe it should just say “A person was busted for smuggling drugs…again”
I’m sorry, I fail to see what the fuck his nationality has to do with this. Fucktards come from all countries, as the starting of this thread proves.[/quote]
I have utilized my awesome modpower and clarified the title.
Rage on![/quote]
But the bust is ancient history. The article is about the sentencing. :p[/quote]
Shirely you can’t expect me to READ the article too!
I am responding to the whim and will of the people of the thread!
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Well, that’s uncalled for.[/quote]
Agreed. BUt two birds in the hand and all that… 
its all advertising my friends… “Canadian again” attracts more instant readership then “Canadian in drug bust again…” which is more HO HUM 
but then we DO have to be Politically Correct. In the future we all have to have Lawyers look over our every utterings to make sure they comply with legalese. haha.
Should we be or should we not be overly PC? Then of course we have to define PC
It had nothing to do with being PC. Your original title was unclear. It’s not much better now. SHould be “Another Canadian in another drug bust.”
but I only fuck things ups once. 
“High court sentences Canadian to five years for drugs”
Bloody hypocrites…
A harsh sentence. A lot of violent criminals get less. His timing was bad; drugs have been in the news lately and they’ve thrown him to the dogs so the public here can blame their drug use on foreigners. (The same media, public, police, and courts that celebrate gangster funerals in public parades).
Taiwan still has some distance to cover from its totalitarian past.
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Another problem here is that the state seems to think it owns your blood and can sample it at will.
What happened to the other Canadian guy who was smuggling dope inside of textbooks about a year ago? Has he been sentenced yet?
But according to the newspaper report the he got less than the minimum sentence.
He copped around 17 years. The prosecution were pushing for the death penalty. But the most galling aspect was they denied him access to his family and granted only limited time with his lawyers during the trial. He was up for the sentence, whatever they gave him, but the abuse of his visitation rights highlights the level of wanton sadism in Taiwan’s penal system.
HG
Well said ,Toe Tag. An excessively harsh and hypocritical sentence.
The other Canadian who used hollowed out books to smuggle drugs into Taiwan was senrenced some time ago. Can’t remember the exact details but I recall he got something like 10 years.
Indeed. When I first saw the title (“Canadian again…”), I thought it was about someone who had regained his Canadian citizenship…
Bit of a drama queen here, eh?
There are very large signs posted at the gates telling of the death penalty for drug smuggling.
I’m sorry, I fail to see what the fuck his nationality has to do with this. Fucktards come from all countries, as the starting of this thread proves.[/quote]
No doubt.
Sadly, however, too many canuckleheads get caught up in hare-brained smuggling schemes. It’s no wonder we can’t even defend our own borders, however inflatedly artifical those constructs may be.
:eh: 
:neutral: :scooby:[/quote]
They’re probably all from Alberta or BC. bunch of idiots crowd that space.
Bit of a drama queen here, eh?
There are very large signs posted at the gates telling of the death penalty for drug smuggling.[/quote]
I think those of us working with a full deck on the brain front realise the difference between being prepared to cop a fair sentence - even if it is the death penalty, by the way - and being unfairly singled out on basic rights and conditions. A factor made considerably more unbearable when not in your home country. Wanton sadism? Yes indeed. Dispute that, arsehat. I realise iIt may take more than your feeble spluttering neuron to get around, but do try your best.
The denial of basic visitation rights for foreign prisoners should be an issue for the international community, but you rightly highlight that there are competing views in this community, and clearly not all of them are lucid or even remotely meaningful.
HG
Maybe I’m sounding too Canadian here, but 7years to life?! For a bit of weed?! Really, with the other crimes occuring in Taiwan on a daily basis, what is the big deal? It’s not like they were smuggling heroin…
[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”][quote=“TainanCowboy”][quote]"…He was up for the sentence, whatever they gave him, but the abuse of his visitation rights highlights the level of wanton sadism in Taiwan’s penal system."[/quote]Bit of a drama queen here, eh?
There are very large signs posted at the gates telling of the death penalty for drug smuggling.[/quote]I think those of us working with a full deck on the brain front…"[/quote]Hmmm…mixing metaphors there? Or just get confused while watching your fingers?[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]"… realise the difference between being prepared to cop a fair sentence - even if it is the death penalty, by the way - and being unfairly singled out on basic rights and conditions.[/quote]“Unfairly singled out”? He was caught in possession. Not aware of the difference are you?[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”] A factor made considerably more unbearable when not in your home country.[/quote]Yes, it is such a surprise to actually see a law enforced here on the island; but on this subject they actually do watch the foreigners for this sort of thing. As your sig line so whiningly espouses…“Momma…it just ain’t fair!”[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”] Wanton sadism? Yes indeed. Dispute that, arsehat.[/quote]I already did. Its just you crying out for attention…again. And such a colorful name; heard that a lot have you?[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]I realise iIt may take more than your feeble spluttering neuron to get around, but do try your best.[/quote]Oh my…I am stung to the heart with that rebuke. I shall seek absolution for my impertinence straightaway.
(I’d comment on your obviously unused spell-check but your message was understandable…for the most part)
[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]The denial of basic visitation rights for foreign prisoners should be an issue for the international community,[/quote]I am in complete agreement with this.[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]"… but you rightly highlight that there are competing views in this community, and clearly not all of them are lucid or even remotely meaningful.[/quote]True…true…but you have as much right to post here as anyone else. As long as you follow the rules…:rules:
[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]HG[/quote]We know this.
[quote]Huang Guang Chen wrote:
"… realise the difference between being prepared to cop a fair sentence - even if it is the death penalty, by the way - and being unfairly singled out on basic rights and conditions.[/quote]
He’s talking about about receiving fewer rights than other prisoners banged up for possession in terms of visits and lawyers, etc. I’d call that unfair.
Sandman -
If this is what hes referring to, then agreed. Hard for me to tell exactly what his comments are directed towards quite often.
The “Justice system” here is a slip-shod affair that is unevenly applied and rampantly racist. There is no question or argument with that. Its high-lighted everyday on the TV ‘news’ reports about the latest embezzler learning he’s come under the gun and slipping off to the mainland or the Taiwan “Pop Star” crying about getting caught with a condo full of reefer plants. And then getting a pat on his head and a pass. All the way down to Aching getting 2 years for murdering someone while drunk and stupid in his car. No doubts there.
But any ‘foreigner’ fcking around with illegal dope here is pasting a big sign on their backside saying 'Fck Me I’m a Dumb*ss." If they are too sturpid to understand that then they are too stupid to leave home without their Mommy writing their address on their collar.
I don’t like to hear about the raw deals they get here - I think it “unfair” and probably in violation of some International Treaty (not that that really means a flying frig on this island - but thats the reality.
Don’t mistake my comments for a lack of care or consideration for injustice and unequally applied legal process. Its not that.
Quite some effort you’ve gone to there, and yet when it’s all boiled down you basically agree with the only point of contention I had, and that was “The denial of basic visitation rights for foreign prisoners should be an issue for the international community.”
Since the reading is clearly not coming along for you, or you are so prone to reading into my words what you want to believe, I’ll break it down and use simple text. Be sure to follow with your fingers, as I really wouldn;t want you to lose your place.
That was Forand’s response on being caught. He took full responsibilty and cooperated fully with the authorities from the outset, a factor he was commended for at his trial.
That would be denying visitation rights to Matt’s family when they were in Taiwan for the court case. Something that is not done to other prisoners during their court cases, by the way. You see it now? SINGLED OUT. It means not treated the same as other prisoners, in this instance. You can see how nasty that is, right, because you agreed.
You getting the drift now? His family from Canada were unable to see their son while they were in Taiwan. I would call that unusually harsh when the prosecution were calling for the death penalty, especially for his family.
Well, you agreed, so now perhaps you could spend a little of your playtime outlining just what the fuck your point actually was?
Perhaps self interest is a better motivator. I also had a friend that hit and killed a drunk who ran a red light in a little town outside of Hualien. The court case was taken back to that town where unsurprisngly the dead man had many a living relative. As unfair as it was, he was looking at ten years in prison. Shit happens even when you don’t go begging for it. A free life today can end in incarceration tomorrow, especially where the rule of law is still on shaky ground. .
That is why I suggested it was in the international community’s interest to push for at least equal rights with domestic prisoners, nothing to do with the crime.
HG