Oh, please. 
Granted the guy was wrong to do it, but videotaping women in a dressing room is not THAT bad. Now, something like videotaping women in the can would get my personal nod of truly sick “perversion”. haha. 
Oh, please. Granted the guy was wrong to do it, but videotaping women in a dressing room is not THAT bad. Now, something like videotaping women in the can would get my personal nod of truly sick “perversion”. haha. [/quote]
Yeah,
On second thought, jail is too much, I agree. However, I still think the guy’s gotta problem. I agree with you filming someone while they’re using the can is true “sickness.” I remember when the authorities in St.Louis claimned that performer Chuck Berry did exactly that to the women who used the bathroom in his nightclub. It came out later that Berry liked that sort of thing. After learning about that, whenever I hear one of his songs, the image pops into my brain.
I hope they post his magical tapes on the internet.
He was just having a bit of a leer.
Oh, please. Granted the guy was wrong to do it, but videotaping women in a dressing room is not THAT bad.[/quote]
I think its pretty bad. Would you think it was bad if the girl was your sister, girlfriend or wife?
What this asshole did was a breach of both propriety and trust. If they don’t throw his sorry ass in jail, they should let the boyfriends/husbands/brothers/fathers of the girls have a go at him.
Of course it’s bad. I didn’t say it wasn’t. But if the extent of perversion by some psycho was videotaping my sister or whoever, I’d consider it lucky that he didn’t do one of a million other things that are much, much, much worse.
Personally, someone so lame doesn’t even measure on the ol’ fisticuffs scale. It’s obvious he’s some cowardly perverted loser, so how would it prove anything if I kicked his ass? It wouldn’t change the fact that what happened happened. Only thing I’d get out of it is “wow I managed to beat the crap out of some low life slimeball. Go me!”
And a breach of propriety and trust huh? True enough, but how often does THAT happen…especially here?
I feel this is kind of a modern day peeping tom.
As to Tigerman’s statement: [quote]they should let the boyfriends/husbands/brothers/fathers of the girls have a go at him.[/quote]
Did you watch Animal House? I hope you were thoroughly disgusted when John Belushi stood on the ladder outside the sorrority house.
How about ‘Revenge of the Nerds’, did you turn it off when they deployed the hidden video camera’s? “This is bullshit, pan down, I WANT BUSH”
I know the guy did a stupid thing, but throw him in jail/ beat him up?
Was it that serious?
Personally I think some of you guys are being a bit generous with this human piece of trash. Tigerman is right. I think it would take on a whole new dimension if and when it happens to a family member.
After all, who knows what this guy would have done with the tapes if he had not been found. Put them on the Internet? Possible. Sold them? Possible.
I think the guy needs some professional help fast, if he did it for personal pleasure. If he had economic reasons, then he should have to face legal punishment in some way. (I’m not sure right now what kind of legal punishment he should face).
As for this being similar to what happened in some movies, I don’t think we can compare. I mean I can accept a lot of things which happen in movies which would be impossible to accept if they were happening in real-life.
Certainly there are worse things. But an invasion of privacy and a breach of trust rank pretty high on my scale of improper behavior. And even if you don’t consider it all that bad, perhaps the girls who were unknowingly watched do feel violated.
Think about the guy who breaks into your home but only manages to take a few dollars. He really didn’t harm anything and only made off with a few dollars. But, there is a feeling of being violated and for women, I would think another factor would be the fear that the guy might use the tapes for something other than his own personal gratification. Placing them on the internet would be bad enough. But what if the sicko, who likely had information regarding these girls via the job application, began stalking the girls?
No, this is just shit that should NOT be tolerated. Those girls shouldn’t have to deal with these worries.
I’d do it and feel good about it.
So, that makes it OK?
[quote=“patterson”]I feel this is kind of a modern day peeping tom.
As to Tigerman’s statement: [quote]they should let the boyfriends/husbands/brothers/fathers of the girls have a go at him.[/quote]
Did you watch Animal House? I hope you were thoroughly disgusted when John Belushi stood on the ladder outside the sorrority house.
How about ‘Revenge of the Nerds’, did you turn it off when they deployed the hidden video camera’s? “This is bullshit, pan down, I want BUSH”[/quote]
I have no problem separating movie fantasy from reality. I didn’t see the Nerds.
What the fuck has my support for Pres. Bush have to do with this discussion?
Edited: Ooops… I didn’t realize you were referring to that bush (you should not have capitalized the “B”…
[quote=“patterson”]I know the guy did a stupid thing, but throw him in jail/ beat him up?
Was it that serious?[/quote]
It could well have been “that serious”. If it were your wife or daughter, you could take the chance that this is no big deal. Considering that he would have, via the job application, information that he could use to blackmail or stalk your daughter/wife, that would be your chance to take.
You don’t think an invasion of your privacy is serious? How 'bout you post your real name (full) and some naked photos of yourself on the internet? Or how about your medical history?
Alright,
Let me get things straight here. Hooters is a bar where large breasted women exploit their natural/ implanted assets to take advantage of poor lonely souls. Yes/No? Men drink in those bars for the purpose of leering at the amply proportioned. Is it not therefore ironic that these women are complaining about the very thing they have applied to work as? They didnt know they were being taped. Invasion of privacy, fair point. BUT, come on, you must see the funny side of all this.
Did these women get hired, and then find out about the tapes? Or is it sour grapes at being rejected?
If this had happened in another establishment, as I mentioned before i.e. a convent, then I wouldnt find it so funny. But this is HOOTERS we are talking about.
Would it be the same if a man was secretly taping porn stars trying out for roles in films? Would that be unfunny too? [/quote]
[quote=“patterson”]Alright,
Let me get things straight here. Hooters is a bar where large breasted women exploit their natural/ implanted assets to take advantage of poor lonely souls. Yes/No?[/quote]
Irrelevant.
Huh? These women were not being hired as strippers. Therefore, I fail to see any irony in the situation.
Women have enough problems with asshole men as it is already, without adding to the worries and embarrassment that this episode has generated.
I don’t see anything funny at all about this. I volunteered at a women’s shelter when I was in college… abuse of women (and that is exactly what this was) is not funny, IMO.
Irrelevant.
So, if a prostitute is raped, that’s OK, right?
It would be no different. It would not be funny (why would that be funny?).
Geez, what a pathetic situation to debate right or wrong on.
The rights of these women were violated.
So, they want to work at Hooters, what is wrong with that?
It isn’t about the girls. Why do idiotic people try to pass the blame back onto the girls? They didn’t do anything wrong.
The manager was all wrong, nothing to justify it.
ok i give up. hang the bastard. Hang his buddies too. I live in shalu if you’d like to come and beat the living shit out of me. I looked at a womans arse yesterday. And I enjoyed it. I may look at another later. Stop me, I am a living monster.
Don’t be silly.
There’s a big difference between looking at women and secretly taping them as they disrobe. You can distinguish between these, right?
I’m with Bassman. This is one of the most ridiculous conversations I’ve seen on Forumosa. The rights of these women were violated. Period.
How would you like it if some middle-aged blue-haired Annette Lu lookalike videotaped you undressing for her erotic pleasure, guys? Ewwwww. Try and stop thinking like 13 year old horndogs, guys.
[quote=“mod lang”]I’m with Bassman. This is one of the most ridiculous conversations I’ve seen on Forumosa. The rights of these women were violated. Period.
How would you like it if some middle-aged blue-haired Annette Lu lookalike videotaped you undressing for her erotic pleasure, guys? Ewwwww.[/quote]
Ok, Mr. high and mighty himself has spoken. Let’s all stop this thread and give praise to him! All hail ML! Give me an f-ing break. 
Frankly, if some blue haired whoever the hell was taping me for her or his pleasure, I wouldn’t give a rats ass about it. But then again, I’m not a woman and I’m not a voyeurphobe (if that’s even a word). I’d be amused more than anything if anyone wanted to see me like that anyway. 
I don’t think anyone disputed that it was wrong, only to what kind of a degree. And ML you aren’t exactly one who should be throwing around comments like:
Just because I don’t see it like you do, makes me a 13 year old horndog eh? Good job, ML. People like you are the reason that other people are afraid to voice opinions apart from the consensus.
So Steve, would it bother you to discover that someone was filming you masturbating in the shower at California Fitness with a hidden camera and posted the footage (or should I say millimeterage) on a gay porn site on the Internet without your knowledge (or without paying your customary fees)? Is there a distinction?
A) That is something better left at home, and I have not ever and will not ever to something like that in a public place
B) I think I already emphasized that I wouldn’t give a damn if it did happen. If some girl or even guy gets off to me, hey more power to them. I’d question their taste, however, as I’m a far cry from the best of what the net has to offer. haha. 
Without touching directly on the rights and wrongs of secret filming with hidden cameras, I’d just like to say that I’m one of those who has never fully understood why some people make such a fuss about being seen without their clothes on – especially if they have bodies that other people are likely to enjoy looking at. It doesn’t bother me at all, and I’ve known quite a few people of both genders who have enjoyed it enormously rather than otherwise, so it puzzles me that some people react to it as the equivalent of being robbed or physically assaulted. How can other people’s eyes be regarded as presenting such a threat?
In my opinion, if only we could all get rid of our hangups about our unclothed bodies and embrace the wonderfully healthy culture of, for example, pre-1945 Japan, where males and females of all ages bathed naked together in public ofuros without any unpleasant feelings of self-consciousness or shame, the world would surely be a much better place. It’s a comforting thought that, on the whole, the world does seem to be moving slowly in that direction (as the rising popularity of naturism and the rash of people putting nude photos of themselves on the Internet seem to indicate). I dearly hope I’ll live to see the day when mankind reclaims its place in the Garden of Eden.