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i offered a theory - up to you to look into it.
what iam referring to is lost civilization - talking about 12000 years old or more — but again just a theory with plenty of new evidences. and Iam no specialist in this.
This is for another thread. This thread is about the engineering achievements of our known civilizations.
was just trying to give some kind of answers to the question related to this thread
We still do! 
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Does Hancock mention Angkor Wat in his books?
This is not true. They theorize how they could be done. But I’ve yet to seen anyone do anything besides cutting a few inaccurate inches of stone ina few days. There’s no evidence of these “simple tools” like large saws. Saw with serrated edge either. No evidence of any system that would allow them to stack blocks.
For all we know, Taiwan may have been the site of some ancient super-civilization. That hill behind my house looks kind of like a pyramid. Think I can charge tickets? (It worked for the Serbs.)
Graham Hancock is a wonderful scholar who has revolutionized / integrated the study of Atlantis, Jesus, the Freemasons, and the monuments of Mars.
The pyramids wasn’t the only construction we have no explanation for. Many others like this one.
In terms of possible older civilizations. Machi pichu provides some evidence of the possibility. The stone at the bottom are accurately cut and put together, later structures were not.
Why bother with all this silly back and forth when Obama has already definitively answered these questions?
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Often wondered just what technology was lost forever when the Library of Alexandria burnt in the second century.
And although I don’t subscribe to the theory that the Catholic Church is evil (after all is tallied), I would also love to know just exactly what is in the Vatican Secret Library. Most likely it doesn’t contain works that might explain some lost technologies, but you never know.
I love stuff like this. Ever read Erich von Däniken’s books? He’s a complete nutcase, and I suspect he just makes stuff up, but the places he visits and documents are genuinely fascinating.
For me the more important question is not “how?” but “why?”. Especially that Egyptian bomb-shelter thing. Assuming it was done in the ordinary way - time and manpower - what would have been the point? Most civilisations developed what would today be called ‘appropriate technology’, using the minimum amount of engineering to get the job done. So why did they spend what must have been the entire country’s GDP on a single building?
Yes, lapped up Chariots of the Gods as a kid. I hear he has a theme park somewhere in Switzerland.
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They cut stone. What do you want them to do, mobilize a force of slave labor, develop the tech for the next thousand years and build a pyramid? They showed one feasible approach to cut stone. They also left striations similar to those on ancient cut stone, if you noticed. If you want proof of exactly what happened in history, you’re not always going to get it. Sometimes the best we can do is identify a logical rationale for what might have happened. The simplest conclusion is that people put their heads and force together and figured out a way to do it. Exactly how may never be known. If you’re suggesting some other explanation, I would want to see some evidence that it’s even possible.
The stone cutting method is I guess feasible, although again, the accuracy and the time it would take to build all of their sites would seem almost ridiculous to believe they were doing this that way. Also again, no saws were ever found to be larger than 2 feet, and certainly non with serrated edges.
There’s still no proven theory on how they stacked the hundred ton stones up to hundreds of feet.
I don’t know how they did it, I used to think the same way as you until I looked into the theory they had in real practice and the lack of any evidence that it was done this way.
Perhaps there were civilizations before we don’t know about like how Machu Picchu had superior construction than later constructions on top of it.
But there’s no evidence it was done any other way either. Those guys may be entirely wrong about the particulars. But they did show it’s possible to cut stone with a simple copper tool. That doesn’t even mean they did it that way, but one has to assume that people figured out a way to do it and did it. We’ve shown that we’re pretty good at that. It may be fun to speculate about various things, but I don’t expect anyone to find evidence of an entirely new paradigm apart from people figuring shit out, or prove that people couldn’t have done it. No harm in looking though!
You can visit them, if you are a bona fide researcher:
http://www.archiviosegretovaticano.va/content/archiviosegretovaticano/en/consultazione.html
Materials on ancient technologies? Well, who knows, but the documents are grouped according to papal reign, if that gives you some idea of what they are likely to consist of.
If I recall, you have to be a grad student, one, and no open-ended browsing (content or time) is allowed. Basically, you have to be judged by the Vatican to be qualified to enter the Archives, and then you must declare which works you want to examine. Not permitted to just go in, pick something off a shelf, find a seat, and read until closing time.
I understand that you might have to have extensive knowledge of ancient languages, which is quite a barrier in itself.
The guy in the video pointed out that, even if you were prepared to do this for years on end (an 8-foot cut would take 600 hours, or four months for two people with one day off a week) you wouldn’t achieve the required accuracy. I suppose the stones could have been subsequently dressed off after a rough cut, but you’re then talking maybe one man-year per block. Why on earth would anybody do this, when far simpler techniques can achieve a similar end result?
Just putting on my von Daniken hat here, I reckon it could have been done with steam power driving a water-jet cutting head. I’m pretty sure that would have been within the capabilities of an iron-age civilization (although I guess not with the same performance as a modern one). That would inevitably result in the very smooth, square cuts you see at those ancient sites, and it could also have been used for generating relief shapes.
I’m not aware of any evidence that ancient peoples used steam-powered technology, are you? Is that what you mean by a “far simpler technique”?
I don’t think these guys were trying to state that their method was what was used. They were just demonstrating its basic feasibility.