How do we make drivers yield to pedestrians at crosswalks?

Changhua people need to step up the game. If it was in zhonghe, there would be 20 scooter, 3 cars and stuff from shops all on that empty space behind it.

one’s never too old to play peek-a-boo…

Tell me you’re Taiwanese without telling me you’re Taiwanese.

You’re not on a wheelchair waiting for the bus, do you?

Another one being shared around on Facebook and Reddit.

https://old.reddit.com/r/taiwan/comments/15acu3w/what_is_accessibility/

I can’t, they’re idiots, it’s the only plausible explanation.

Well…for some people that might be a bit too nice. Too many people just not thinking at all and kind of just doing whatever because the traffic rules haven’t really mattered for decades and that’s what people have learned and ingrained into their driving.

They aren’t thinking about wheelchairs at all. They are thinking that scooters absolutely WILL use those ramps to park illegally. Problem is you can’t stop scooters without also stopping wheelchairs.

We have a huge majority of scooter riders who absolutely don’t care about rules at all, against a small minority of wheelchair users.

Unless you can patrol the streets like the MRT you can’t stop scooters. A scooter for example could very easily ride into an MRT station and onto trains without getting off, and if no one was there to stop them, they absolutely would.

Higher fines and effective enforcement (possibly including towing) would be one option.

I mean people have told me (when I was driving a car) that I shouldn’t stop for pedestrians that often because it’s dangerous as cars behind me might not expect this and crash into me. Can’t even say that statement is very far-fetched…

Yea that’s a very good option, but again the amount of space MRT employees have to patrol and enforce rules is vastly smaller than the number of officers in say Taipei city alone (and you know New Taipei City is several times the size of Taipei city). Also MRT rules are much better enforced too. But we’re talking about 20 employees for a facility that is maybe about 1000 ping in floor area. This is very little compared to say square miles of space patrolled by likely 10 cops per square mile… how would they be everywhere at once?

So where are they going to get all the extra officers to actually enforce and tow illegally parked vehicles?

I hate them too but it seems the country as a whole has thrown up their hands and say they can’t stop illegal parking at all, seeing how they won’t even accept reports on it.

The government could just make a huge show of force with fleets of tow trucks the same way they resurface roads overnight, and (perhaps time it around the time of major road work), tow all illegally parked vehicles and fine the owners.

Problem is Taiwanese politicians are far more accountable to the people than they are in the US, and any politicians who initiate such big enforcement drive will probably lose their political career completely. It would need to be a strongman’s tactic done sacrificially. Basically a lot of people, especially people with money (they’re the ones that tend to ignore traffic laws) will be very unhappy.

We need a Xi Jingping to just go and do it and damn the people’s anger.

You’d think the lack of road safety for pedestrians would have people holding them accountable? There couldn’t possibly be more car owners in Taipei than voting age people who are pedestrians.

I dont have a clue what you mean here.

I don’t know, the problem is pedestrians tend to be worker class who don’t have money and more importantly time.

The car owners will tend to be well off professionals, landowner, boss type class. Their voices will carry bigger weight and more importantly they have a lot of time and guanxi. Even if the enforcement drive likely will affect delivery drivers and such as rich folks can afford parking spaces.

I said Xi Jingping because this solution requires the government to be authoritarian. Basically damn the people’s will and do what is best for the country even if it means throwing rich folks under the bus so pedestrians don’t end up literally under a bus.

Well, people behind you will know to stop when your brake lights turn on.

At the Kaohsiung protest the father of the 3yr. old girl was present and took the stage. He brought his little girl’s backpack. It was her favorite bag. It had her blood on it. But he couldn’t throw it away. He cleaned it up and took it to the event.

Recording of the father’s speech as well as part of the march.

Clip from the protest showing a bystander/scooter owner mad at the pedestrian protestors who are forced into the road because of illegally parked scooters on the sidewalk. (Posted above but that link was deleted).

Yeah, because authoritarians like Xi and Putin will always do what’s best for the country and don’t act solely to retain their power and for their own personal benefit :innocent:

Oh, they’re probably watching their phone, so they might not notice :man_shrugging:

In which case it won’t matter whether you’re stopping for a pedestrian or a red light! :sweat_smile:

Police in Taiwan is way too over tasked.
I think the only way to reasonably crack down on bad behavior is to establish a new agency of Code enforcement - Wikipedia. Basically a government agency where code enforcement officers can record and issue fines for minor violations like illegal parking, littering, noise, etc.
Enforcement officers can take over those tasks from police and call police in only if needed. They would not need same extensive powers or weapons as policemen, so training would be much quicker, cheaper and easier. They could be randomly placed on intersections and record cars that do not stop for pedestrians, patrol streets and issue fines for parking violations.
Similar agencies exist in other countries, e.g. in Germany it is Ordnungsamt.

Yes we also have traffic control police in my country. They only do traffic related work.