How do we make drivers yield to pedestrians at crosswalks?

I’d lose my mind.

At the very least I’d be damned sure people would know what a sidewalk is.

Same Taichung citizen transportation benefits for all foreigners with an ARC that list Taichung as their address.

So much to do :person_shrugging:

Anyways, given our mayor in Taichung is nicknamed Mama Lu you’d think she of all people would be the one to usher in a new area of pedestrian friendly changes to the city’s infrastructure.

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She appears to me to be an old-school do nothing KMT mayor.

My vote would definitely be for Mayor Lunlan. :grin:

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Taichung always has the worst traffic of all… I am not sure why. Way more scooters, etc.

The city is designed with more cars in mind for sure, pedestrians don’t count. It’s one reason why I hated the place when I was stationed there. If it wasn’t for family I wouldn’t want to go anywhere near there.

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“Taiwan is a living hell for pedestrians” Taipei edition


via @heguisen

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Standard practice at many gas stations across the country unfortunately. Build them on the corners and let it be a free for all.

A Taiwanese YouTuber made a video about this kind of problem a year ago. If I remember right that was around the time when a young student in Yilan was crossing the street (legally) and was on the crosswalk when she was hit and killed by a truck pulling out from the corner of the intersection which was a gas station.

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Saw this shared online. Taichung’s JinHua (Evolution) N. Road which has recently finished road work and new sidewalks and corners but it continues to be a pedestrian’s nightmare. You not only have to dodge scooters but also trucks! Not just trucks parking on the crosswalk, but parking on the brand new sidewalk completely blocking the crosswalk!


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So convenient !

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By Taiwan government’s logic this is actually a sidewalk! Other countries may call it a parking lot, but here in Taiwan this is actually a sidewalk.

Even if it is a sidewalk people justify it saying it’s okay he’s just unloading stuff and will be gone after a few minutes!

Yeah, great as he blocks the yellow tactile bumps for visually impaired folks and creates blind spots for drivers and pedestrians and adds more wear and tear the sidewalk. Since I know this spot there’s a 99% chance he could’ve just parked about 10m away on an empty red line to unload his goods all the same without affecting traffic (except for people coming out of what I think is a car wash) or pedestrians.

Also saw this one shared online. Great use of money building that new sidewalk…er I mean parking lot.

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Saw this shared online. New sidewalk finished in Douliu, Yunlin next to the baseball stadium.


Meanwhile next to Taichung’s baseball stadium.

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Progress: The busy and, in my view dangerous, intersection of Dehe and Zhongzheng roads in New Taipei’s Yonghe District is now 3 phase. Way to go, let those left turners wait until they turn green. :nauseated_face:

Old image

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Tainan starting January 1st 2025 will open qilou/arcades to motorcycle parking. 1.5m of space is supposed to be left for pedestrians.

Will this actually change anything? :sweat_smile:

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Taichung and Taoyuan continue to do poorly.

Taoyuan posted the largest increase in deaths from traffic incidents in the first nine months of this year, while Taichung had the most pedestrian deaths,


Head of the MOTC came to Taichung. States that Taichung’s intersections are dangerous. Also says that driving concepts in Taichung are not as normalized or accustomed to like they are in Taipei. Such as in Taipei driving culture is better than Taichung for yielding to pedestrians. The head of the MOTC also said that in Taichung when he is walking he will also be a bit worried.

I do find it ironic that they are standing at a crossing (no lights, pedestrians have priority and can cross) and not wanting to cross.

Oh look, they are standing in the road too, not on the crosswalk. It’s okay though, they are holding up signs telling people to yield to pedestrians and what not. Somehow they can’t do this like a couple meters away from the crosswalk instead of right next to it or standing in the road.

The news points out of course things will be fine with the heavy police and media presence gathered.


Taichung pedestrian bridge has no crosswalks so for those who have mobility issues they have to find another crosswalk to get around and make their way back. Depending on where you’re going this could mean walking an extra half kilometer or more. Only public sidewalk here is the section next to the school.

Been like this for a looong time. City dept. of transportation says no crosswalks will be added because of blind spots from the pedestrian bridge pillars. I’m glad they totally deal with all these blind spot issues in the rest of the city then. :roll:


Man in Taichung drives into a road divider. Turns out this was less than a couple kilometers away from where he just had an accident about an hour earlier in which he hit a pedestrian crossing the street…

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The news in the previous post also mentions the new video the MOTC put out about yielding. Thoughts? To me it seems rather bland and lacking any impact.

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Police won’t have to do anything about it if someone calls?

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EDIT: News video on YouTube with an extra CCTV camera angle showing the collision (video skips over the moment of impact as per usual in Taiwan).

Aaand yesterday another pedestrian hit in Taichung. Elementary school student crossing the street hit by 48yr. old on scooter who ran a red light then failed to yield to 2 elementary school students crossing the street on the other side of the intersection. One of the two students crossing was hit.

The students had only recently gotten off of school. Fortunately the 11yr. old student that was hit only had some bruising on her hands and feet.

Article with CCTV video. It doesn’t catch the collision but shows the other student managing to avoid getting hit in the corner of the screen.

The police said the motorcyclist violated the following traffic laws:
Article 44, Item 4 and Article 53 of the Road Traffic Management Punishment Ordinance. According to relevant regulations, Mr. Li (guy on the scooter) will face a fine of 7,200 to 36,000, and his driver’s license will be suspended for one year for causing injuries to others; for running a red light, he will be fined another 1,800 to 5,400.

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Student pedestrian area in ZhuBei. Speed limit set at 30 with huge blob of paint indicating it. No sidewalk at all though. Seems to be a new design Hsinchu is going with in a couple of areas.

One politician also mentioned there should also be speed bumps as well and dealing with the illegal parking problem.

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The more I look at this thread, the more depressed I become. When the zero pedestrian deaths movement began, I had hope there would be sweeping change. All I have seen is paint. No enforcement. No sidewalks. Just paint. And then no enforcement of what the paint is supposed to do (like people parking/driving on the green paint sidewalks as if the paint didn’t exist)

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It totally looks like a pedestrian friendly area. That’s what it comes to my mind when I think of an area to have a family walk.

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If I understand correctly there is a +10 km/h tolerance in chabuduoWan. What a joke

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