Oh really, didn’t realize that had changed already. In any case fingers crossed there is such a subsidized system somewhere in Europe when my kids get to that age. Start addressing letters to your kid at your parents address in Ireland two years in advance to avoid non resident fees
You’re not showing me anything. You’re continuing to make irrational statements that don’t align with reality, and I’m illustrating the reality to you.
Rich people (relatively speaking, in the global sense) are the people who send their kids to study abroad in the west. The largest numbers come either from very large countries which may be generally poor but now have a a significant number of rich people (China, India) or from richer countries which have an equally significant number of rich people despite people smaller (Saudi, Japan, Taiwan). That’s all I was saying from the beginning. It’s common sense, the numbers back it up, and it’s what I’ve seen daily for decades through my work with international students from around the world.
I haven’t gone back to read all the comments on this thread yet, but based on what I’m seeing you write in recent days on threads about everything ranging from prostitution to international COL comparisons, I’m realizing logic is not your strong suit, at least when it comes to anything involving basic economics. There’s nothing wrong with that, but it’s odd that you keep making such irrational baseless arguments across so many different threads.
Yet still significantly richer than India and Bangladesh in terms of GDP per capita, based on the post to which I was responding. Poverty is relative. If Bangladesh was either as large as India or as (relatively) “rich” as Vietnam, it would have enough rich people to send more international students to the US like those two countries do.
They do? I’ve not encountered many of those people, I guess, but they are clearly not looking at the data, and possibly have never lived in Taiwan. I don’t see much poverty here at all compared to most of the world. Taiwan ranks right up there with the richest countries in Asia, North America, and Europe in terms of wealth per capita.
It really is, unless you literally live in that state and graduate from a high school in that state. That’s really who in-state tuition is intended for. It used to be easier to get around by owning property in that state, or having grandparents there, or the student “establishing residency” there simply by paying rent and working there for a few months, but those days are gone. As out of state tuitions have grown incredibly high and more people have tried to game the system, state universities have had to get pretty strict about shutting down the methods being used.
In grad school I had a girlfriend who only had to pay half the rent on her apartment because she had a “roommate” who didn’t actually live there and who she had never met, whose father was paying the rent for a year to establish residency to get in state tuition. He was probably paying a total of like $3k in fake rent that year in hopes of saving tens of thousands in tuition later. I’ve always wondered if that actually worked for him, as it seemed too easy. I agree with you that it is much harder now, though.
I have no idea what you are on about. The only claim I had is that Korea and Taiwan used to send way more students to the US than now when Korea and Taiwan were poor, which is completely true. You might not consider Korea and Taiwan in the 70s poor but most people do/did.
My comments are all true. You people are just not able to come out of your prejudices and I do not intend to keep wasting my time on those topics.
I think it’s tough now. There are one or two schools–I think Northern Illinois is one?–that offer in state to all US citizens. But I’ve never seen a list of them.
I don’t think high school graduation has anything to do with it. My brother had in-state in Virginia when my parents moved to Ohio. He almost instantly lost in-state in Virginia but was able to get it in Ohio with no problem.
It depends on the individual state and sometimes the individual college. For many, if you graduated high school in that state and your parents are still residents in that state, you can still get in-state tuition, even if you’re not currently a resident there. I know of other people who’s parents moved to a different state during their freshman year of college, and all they needed to do was rent a place in the state to maintain their residency for tuition purposes. You really need to check each individual school
It’s not the only factor, but it’s certainly a factor, at least at many state schools. Graduating from a high school in that state and going directly into a state university means a lot less (and often nothing) to prove in terms of residency. I wouldn’t be surprised if Virginia is even more stringent than most states, though, given the status of UVA among state schools nationally.
This was decades ago, but I’d thought that schools look 100% at tax returns.
It sounds like in some situations, if you graduate and go straight into a state university as a resident, you can maintain residency, but it’s really hard to tell how common that is.
I think it would be fairly easy for us to spend a year in the US (perhaps with eldest child’s senior year). But the stakes are somewhat high if you mess it up and schools can in theory demand you pay them back the out of state rate. We may still be good candidates for liberal arts colleges, if the kids can go to schools with reasonable financial aid.
As nz said, the details differ by state and by specific university, but the clear trend across the board has been the closing of loopholes over the past couple decades. Yes, the family spending the student’s senior year in that state should be enough, but you want to check with the university. You also want to consider that senior year can be a really difficult time for a kid to have to relocate to a new high school, let alone a different country.