How Does Age Change One's Political View?

Are political views and aging combined and how has aging affected your political views? I’m aware those who spend time in the military tend often towards to the right and I’ve heard of and witnessed a number of people becoming more conservative with age.

I guess I’m also curious about those with children and how they influence the change of personal political views. I can remember a time when both my parents had conservative views however when their children became liberal-minded adults there seemed to be a turn around in their political opinions. Obviously it happens the other way too.

Please don’t turn this into a left-wing is better than right-wing debate or vice versa.

IMO, as one ages and gains more experience in life, one see’s what is valuable and useful and what is a waste of time.
One also realizes that there are indeed absolutes. There is good and bad; right and wrong.
Another big factor in this is that as one gets older, one tends to acquire ‘stuff.’ Cars, homes, family, etc. And for many this means going into some kind of debt.
Which means monthly payments. Which means responsibility. Which means a lot of people are dragged kicking and screaming into …maturity. (aka - growing the f*ck up)

Of course…this does not apply to everyone. And thus you have those who would look to the state to provide for them. And thus you have…

Just my observation…take this and NT$49 to your local 7/11 and get a 600ml of Taiwan beer and meditate on things.

Good topic…hope to see more opines on this.

Isn’t it just that we tire of trying to help good battle over evil the older we get? :wink:

I get less conservative as I get older, because I get more compassionate.

“Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains.”

[quote=“hsiadogah”]“Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains.”

I’d always assumed the quote was actually: “Any man under 30 who is not a socialist has no heart, and any man over 30 who is still a socialist has no head.”

So I checked . .

[quote]The earliest known version of this observation is attributed to mid-nineteenth century historian and statesman Fran

Any man under 30 who isn’t a fool has yet to be born and any man over 30 who isn’t a moron is dead. :laughing:

Don’t take my word for it. Ask anyone under 30 about anyone over 30 and vice-versa.

Well that expression was also drummed into me by my father. However, I too observed in him that as he got older, he too began to reflect on the harshness of nature and that as animals we are pitted against it. We need conservatism and liberalism to survive and innovate, but most of all we need to have compassion for one another. It’s not that compassion is strictly the reserve of liberals, because it isn’t. In fact, I think the more traditional definition of conservatism as apposed to what we have now was and is actually quite compassionate. It’s just that what passes for conservatism these days is an “I’m alright Jack attitude.” That as we all know is simply a fool’s paradise. Sucked in aspirtents

I would think that young people want change to come quickly. Yet as one ages and hopefully matures, one sees that every generation wants rapid change, and rapid change, at least politically, can and often does lead to anarchy, despotism, socialism, communism and fascism…all of which suck really bad, but seemed like a good idea at the getgo.

Therefore, one may feel a need to tug the reigns once in a while.

I am more conservative now and 37 than I was at 22, but then again, at 22, I didn’t know anything. :loco:

YMMV

“We want the World and We want it NOW!” - When The Music’s Over, Jim Morrison, The Doors

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I’m not so sure about the -isms and theories listed there being any better than capitalism with the exception of a few but debate on this only gets one hot under the colllar and doesn’t usually change viewpoints of others.

I’m not so sure about the -isms and theories listed there being any better than capitalism with the exception of a few but debate on this only gets one hot under the colllar and doesn’t usually change viewpoints of others.[/quote]
Wait a few years and you will. :wink:

My views have become more moderate, not more liberal or more conservative. There is a place in my philosophy for absolutes, but more and more I’m seeing shades of grey. I think this is due to seeing some of the ridiculous polarizations on Forumosa. Nothing like watching two jerks from opposite ends of the political spectrum going at it tooth and nail on the forums to make me realize that I have little in common with either of them! :loco:

I disagree with this viewpoint. :wink: I guess it is my Irish side, but I’ve always enjoyed contrarian, eccentric, and crude people – regardless of their politics. I may disagree with some of their opinions, but it is all entertainment.

I dread turning into my Dad, military career and more and more conservative and reactionary every day. Anti-socialist, anti-gay, anti-liberal, anti-journalism, anti-lawyer (he may have a point here), anti-green. At the same time he talks of ‘evil trades unions’ and he then recounts tales of his youth when working conditions were pretty vile and unions managed to change them - it don’t make sense. I try and avoid discussions that are political and don’t talk about gay friends which is sad. I’m probably more liberal as a reaction to his rants about the decline of western civilization etc.

I can see the “moderate” argument having weight. I am more a moderate conservative on social issues, gayrights, abortion…etc, but much more conservative on foreign policy and Constitutional rights.

I’m post-political. I listen to the extremists from both sides of the aisle and realize just how similar the smell of bullshit is. Life is too complicated for one party to have any monopoly on the truth. But I think Bob put it best:

[quote]Crimson flames tied through my ears
Rollin’ high and mighty traps
Pounced with fire on flaming roads
Using ideas as my maps
“We’ll meet on edges, soon,” said I
Proud 'neath heated brow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I’m younger than that now.

Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth
“Rip down all hate,” I screamed
Lies that life is black and white
Spoke from my skull. I dreamed
Romantic facts of musketeers
Foundationed deep, somehow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I’m younger than that now.

Girls’ faces formed the forward path
From phony jealousy
To memorizing politics
Of ancient history
Flung down by corpse evangelists
Unthought of, though, somehow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I’m younger than that now.

A self-ordained professor’s tongue
Too serious to fool
Spouted out that liberty
Is just equality in school
“Equality,” I spoke the word
As if a wedding vow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I’m younger than that now.

In a soldier’s stance, I aimed my hand
At the mongrel dogs who teach
Fearing not that I’d become my enemy
In the instant that I preach
My pathway led by confusion boats
Mutiny from stern to bow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I’m younger than that now.

Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats
Too noble to neglect
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect
Good and bad, I define these terms
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow.
Ah, but I was so much older then,
I’m younger than that now.
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The middle ground, in nearly all matters, is very highly over-rated, IMO.

People seem to advocate moderation and or the middle ground for no other reason than because it “seems” like it ought to be most sensible.

Taking the middle ground approach seems to me, to be like stopping some, but not all of the blood flow when treating a wound. Screw that. I want an approach taken that will stop all of the blood flowing from the wound.

Moderation is OK, I guess, in connection with eating and drinking… but when tackling problems, I want an absolute fix, or as near to one as is possible… not some moderate compromise.

Oh, I know, if you argue for extreme measures you will not likely succeed in getting them. But, at least you might hopefully get something that more approaches your ideal than you would be likely to get if you began negotiating from a moderate position.

Consider the following:

Gay marriage: I support the right of gay people to get married. Civil marriages or in a house of worship, if such house will perform and sanction the ceremony… I support them all. I don’t buy this moderate nonsense of allowing gays to have something like a marriage… provided it is not called a “marriage”… IMO, you are either married or you are not. Screw moderation on this issue. If you do not believe gay people have the right to get married, then just say so. If you do believe that gay people should have the right to get married… then just say so.

Moderation? Yeah. Right.

[quote]
And I, who had my head girt with horror, said, “Master, what is it that I hear? and what folk are they who seem in woe so vanquished?”

And he to me, “This miserable measure the wretched souls maintain of those who lived without infamy and without praise. Mingled are they with that caitiff choir of the angels, who were not rebels, nor were faithful to God, but were for themselves. The heavens chased them out in order to be not less beautiful, nor doth the depth of Hell receive them, because the damned would have some glory from them.”

And I, “Master, what is so grievous to them, that makes them lament so bitterly?”

He answered, “I will tell thee very briefly. These have no hope of death; and their blind life is so debased, that they are envious of every other lot. Fame of them the world permitteth not to be; mercy and justice disdain them. Let us not speak of them, but do thou look and pass on.” - From Dante’s “The Inferno”[/quote]