How is this year's winter season air quality?

Some people do that. Even pre covid.

Domestic aur pollution is quite terrible. Luckily we are a north south oriented island with mountains and our geography and west blow most of it away. But what’s left, and being so intense, should be far more alarming than if we were in the middle of a land locked windless area.

Examples of domestic air pollution in DRY areas. Note the happy blue sky and shining sunshine and the pollution low laying. This means a heavier weighted type, obviously. But all the mentioned conta.inants, plus the natural heavy metals and such, are air borne. This will fuck up the OP lungs far more than rain will in Yilan. For reference…

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What do you on a day like that, or even half that bad, any protection? Sounds like you work outdoors a lot.

My lungs are fucked. I moved to somewhere cleaner, uprooted my family, changed careers and need to pay way more costs to run operations because my lungs are fucked. That’s what I did. It is still bad.

I fully expect to die of lung cancer, if traffic doesn’t take me out first. I have no solutions, sadly. I can only point out the reality and hope people don’t deny it.

We can all live less wasteful and less poisonous lives. At the bare minimum. Sorry, no good answers outside of do our part to try not to make the dust more toxic.

The governments’ response is: stay indoors :roll_eyes: Never about cleaning up pollution and infrastructure :wall:

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I’ve wondered what these massive riverbeds looked like a hundred years ago. Were they as dry and rocky during winter.

Supposedly the dust clouds from riverbeds were always a thing in Taiwan .
It could be worse now because of the gravel and water extraction .

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I believe so. And also the weather patterns have been shifting and will keep shifting given rising temperatures, leading to different patterns of precipitation.

Guy

Large riverbed dust storms have always been a thing. Absolutely and for sure. Taiwan gets some of the strongest rains in the world, temporarily, and we are extremely mountainous. This creates waterways that cannot regrow vegetation and they literally are the pipes that relieve the water pressure of our mainland. This is all very true, well studied and fully accepted. By everyone.

The difference now is 2 fold.

  1. Before, we hadn’t dug massive waterways to avoid flooding. This is good for people in many ways but also makes the main arteries more concentrated. we used to have massive spead out wetlands and jungles in the flat lands. Not anymore, it is all mitigated. For decades.
  2. In times long ago there were no mining operations, outpouring the inner earth in more extreme ways. landslides and all the natural toxic shit to trickle down is now extrapolated due to this.

2.A. In the past we didn’t have large amounts of indindustrial, commercial and residential toxic waste going durectly down pipes and fed directly into the rivers. This is going into said normal dust storm river beds and getting kicked up by the winds.

What does that mean? What is thought to be water pollution and contamination, which is beyond rampant here in this country, is now becoming air borne because it drains into ditches, channels then rivers. Things settle in between rocks and such (check any riverbed). Once it gets dry, this “mud”, that is fully contaminated with who knows what, gets kicked up in wind storms. We are not just breathing in chemicals from industry/agriculture/household but also literally breathing in shit. The ppm this day, or the next, might seem low, but calculate 50 years of 24/7 and then contemplate it.

What I was trying to demonstrate with those pics is particles in the air and the reality of gravity. Light weight vs heavy. Those pics are VERY heavy weight, yet still that high up. Your cars are covered in that dust too. Now a days we also need to pay particular attention to not only the quantity of such particulates, but their actual makeup. Very important points. No one wants to admit it, because everyone is complicit. Just a fact. A hard one. But, a real one.

Lung cancer and “alergies”, as an example, are common here. It shouldn’t be a mystery why. Sure the Gobi. China, japan and etc. We can’t control them. But we can control ourselves, domestically. We haven’t. We don’t. I doubt we will anytime soon. Enjoy the air quality, we are all complicit. And, sure, the government should absolutely step up…but. Haha. This is Taiwan. Industry rules. Laziness reigns. Fact of life.

Before we discuss how to solve this, we should at least all understand the actual facts and what is happening. After that, we can just start to discuss possible solutions.

There were some replies here that didn’t think my posts made any sense. I’ll explain.

My wife is from Kaohsiung. So she took the kids back to see her parents for a 5 week trip. Since I’m the one who works (in Canada), my trip was only going to be 3 weeks long (returning together with them). I wanted to go because I wanted to have fun with my kids and take them around. At the same time, the pollution is a big issue for me. We didn’t travel in the summer because the last time they went (2 years ago), my wife came back saying she wouldn’t go in the summer again because it’s too hot. Anyways - although I did want to go, I also didn’t “have” to go, so I was always very ambivalent about making the trip.

My flight was on Sunday morning. I actually got as far boarding the plane, then I got off when I got to my seat and realised how cramped it was. I should’ve upgraded but I didn’t (the last time we travelled economy and it seemed OK but we also had a full row to ourselves with 2 small kids, so that’s why it was probably OK). I normally upgrade a bit when I travel by myself, but because it was high season, I didn’t to keep the cost down. In any case, I just panicked and got off the plane. So I didn’t travel. I’m a bit regretful of it now, but that’s the decision I made. I foregoed the value of the plane ticket (not a big deal as I can make it back quite easily). But it was a very hectic day and the flight was a 00:05 departure, so I was exhausted and I made a rash decision not to travel. I’d say there were ultimately many reasons that went into that decision, but the air quality was big one.

As for why I didn’t purchase a refundable flight. IIRC, it was an extra $400 for that option. I purchased my ticket back in March. I count 17 trips from Canada to Taiwan for myself since 1997. I never cancelled or no-showed any of them. So I didn’t think it was something I would do. Hence I just bought the non-refundable option. I guess I’ll reconsider that going forward.

Winter air quality in northern Taiwan is still inconsistent. This season has been average to slightly worse than average, with frequent PM2.5 spikes, especially on stagnant days and during pollution blow in from the mainland. Taoyuan and Taipei usually see several bad AQI days each week in winter, not constant, but unpredictable. If your throat is very sensitive, three weeks is a long exposure window. Many people with respiratory issues limit outdoor time, use N95 masks, and rely on indoor air purifiers, but even then some still struggle. If air quality is truly a deal breaker for you, shortening the trip or postponing is a reasonable choice.