How the KMT could save itself

Mazu wasn’t a diety until people made her one.

For an atheist, that’s true for every single deities out there.

For the religious, that’s still true for almost every deity. All of them except the one(s) you personally believe in.

(Sorry, couldn’t resist.)

Eh, sorry to interrupt, but, are there any thoughts on the fact that there are now 5 contestants who have declared their intention of running as candidates for the KMT chairmanship?

Since the current KMT regulation does not allow non-party-members to run for chairmanship, it’s more like 3 people are running. Between Hao Wu Hong, reform is nowhere in sight.

Well, my question is that they have just stated their intention, not yet competing. But the most interesting thing is that the presidential candidate was practically pulled out with forceps, while the party candidacy is bringing postulations urbi et orbi.

Are there any political parties in the world that allows non-party members to be their chairman?

Agreed, doesn’t seem realistic to allow a non party member to run. Maybe someone is thinking of switching parties?

Which tells you a lot about the KMT and what people actually think it is: ie, not a standard political party.

Please explain how the KMT is not a standard political party?

The KMT is the church of re-unification and Sun yat-sen thought. That is the baggage preventing from becoming normal.

Their party members are overall the bluest of the blue, with especially Huang Fu-Hsing being a decisive voting block, they will only vote for a Mainlander and only vote for one so far away from what 90% of all Taiwanese mean that they risk becoming a second new party, if they survive the coming onslaught on their cash reserves.

Sun Yat-sen thought is the 3 principals of the people that lead Taiwan to becoming the vibrant democracy it is today.

Taiwan’s democracy has nothing to do with Sun Yat-sen and his thoughts. His thoughts had no impact on any of the dissidents that the Chinese Nationalist brutally murdered and persecuted since 1947.

What KMT should do is to return to China and start a revolution like they did in 1910s and 20s. If not then start a movement or some sort in their homeland.

The particular strand of KMT that exists in Taiwan is a pure form of Chinese nationalism that frankly has nothing to do with liberal democratic values.

What the DPP should do now that they are the ruling party in both the Executive and Legislative branches is work towards giving the island of Taiwan back to the Aborigines. FREEDOM! :unamused:

You make it sound as if it’s a bad thing :eh:

They are planning to do just that and pass for the first time a comprehensive autonomous territory act and restore all native languages as national languages of Taiwan with the national languages act. Tsai will apologize to the Aboriginals in August for the exploitations by past governments and I think she set it to that date because she wants to apologize as she announces the autonomous territory act coming into law. It will hopefully give back Aboriginal land rights, instead of having their territory still be under local administrative districts. I hope it will also give an Aboriginal council a budget, and treat it like a administrative district in their own rights.

From a pro-Taiwan Independence perspective, having the roc regime give the island of Taiwan back to the Aboriginal Taiwanese is a dream come true. I find Dirt’s smart-ass-ness rather amusing. That’d enhance the DPP even more. (not that DPP needs help to save itself now.)

Dirt, the topic is how KMT could save itself, and we don’t know why you would come up with an idea that promotes Taiwan’s independence even further. :slight_smile: You seem to be quite agitated by my suggestion that KMT should return to China to promote democracy.

Autonomous region? That hasn’t worked out well for the American Indians, or for Tibet and Xinjiang in mainland China for that matter. Poverty and education are at abysmal levels. Well, unless the DPP allows the Taiwanese aborigines to build casinos. Even then, the aborigines will get the land the DPP want them to have, not the land the aborigines actually want.

Taiwanese Independence should be named Taiwanese Colonialism. The KMT can save itself by allowing the DPP and the Taiwanese Colonialist factions show that they only want things for themselves, not for the true owners of Taiwan: the aborigines. Which probably was Ma Ying-jeou’s biggest mistake. Same thing happened with Chen Shui-bian on the other side of the spectrum. The citizens of Republic of China want the middle road.

Dirt, Tibetans and Uighurs are not aborigines and autonomous regions in China are still under the direct control of Beijing.

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Autonomous region? That hasn’t worked out well for the American Indians, or for Tibet and Xinjiang in mainland China for that matter. Poverty and education are at abysmal levels. Well, unless the DPP allows the Taiwanese aborigines to build casinos. Even then, the aborigines will get the land the DPP want them to have, not the land the aborigines actually want.

Taiwanese Independence should be named Taiwanese Colonialism. The KMT can save itself by allowing the DPP and the Taiwanese Colonialist factions show that they only want things for themselves, not for the true owners of Taiwan: the aborigines. Which probably was Ma Ying-jeou’s biggest mistake. Same thing happened with Chen Shui-bian on the other side of the spectrum. The citizens of Republic of China want the middle road.[/quote]

Taiwanese Independence vis-a-vis China (any China) is the opposite of Chinese colonialism.
Malaysian independence is the opposite of British Colonialism.
Indian independence is the opposite of British Colonialism.
So on and so forth. It’s by definition, and self-explanatory.

Since Taiwanese identity (whether it be aboriginal or native) is on the rise, and Chinese identity (any kind) is declining rapidly in Taiwan, the Kuomintang will continue its downward spiral as it clings even closer to Chinese Nationalism.

The Kuomintang Party (before it changed its name to Kuomintang), which was originally established in Japan with Japanese help, wanted a democratic, non-expansionist China friendly to Japan and US. Territorial ambition over Taiwan was not why this party was formed.

But the Kuomintang deviated from these core values and gone astray embracing the worst form Chinese Nationalism as the party’s platform.

Basically at this point, I can see the KMT going in either two directions:

  1. Reforming, as bulk of their strongest supporters will be dead or on pensions in 20 years.
  2. Trying to fabricate a scandal against the Tsai administration.