well PK they don’t need any oldies in the army so…
good to know you got your medical done, i stopped thinking about the reason why they ask u to do it…so did u too have to first take an appointment and then go and do the medical on the appointed date??
at times the 20 days will feel even longer than the past 11 months…you will have to fill some more forms once the 12 months are over and then again wait for 7 - 10 days to get the letter saying that u can come and collect your id, better get all the photos and everything ready…getting the ID card takes about 30 mins…ahh after that u still need to get your passport and that takes about 3 - 4 days after u fill in the application…
let us know when u have it in hand and Welcome to the Club!!!
[quote=“Pioneer Kuro”]Well, well, well, it seems like Bismarck and A-ha are going to take my place in the prison since I am going to be released in about 20 days. Congrats ladies! You are about to receive what seems like the longest year of your life.
Bismarck and A-ha, I think this following matter is very important because I had to do this when I sent my renunciation document back to my home country for attesting (A mate of mine did it for me). But I have no idea whether you have to prepare this thing as well. This is called “ letter of authorization ”. Since you are officially stateless here there is no way you can go back to SA for getting the renunciation document authenticated so that you have to authorize someone to do this job for you. In this case, not only you have to prepare this document but also have to get it notarized by a notary public first and then again get it authenticated by MOFA before being sent to SA along with the renunciation document, without this authorization letter TECO in SA will not authenticate your renunciation document. Remember to write down the name and the ID number of the person who is going to carry your documents to related departments exactly as they appear on his/her ID card.[/quote]
The woman who does ours works at the Taipei Liaison Office in Pretoria.
[quote=“bismarck”][quote=“Pioneer Kuro”]Well, well, well, it seems like Bismarck and A-ha are going to take my place in the prison since I am going to be released in about 20 days. Congrats ladies! You are about to receive what seems like the longest year of your life.
Bismarck and A-ha, I think this following matter is very important because I had to do this when I sent my renunciation document back to my home country for attesting (A mate of mine did it for me). But I have no idea whether you have to prepare this thing as well. This is called “ letter of authorization ”. Since you are officially stateless here there is no way you can go back to SA for getting the renunciation document authenticated so that you have to authorize someone to do this job for you. In this case, not only you have to prepare this document but also have to get it notarized by a notary public first and then again get it authenticated by MOFA before being sent to SA along with the renunciation document, without this authorization letter TECO in SA will not authenticate your renunciation document. Remember to write down the name and the ID number of the person who is going to carry your documents to related departments exactly as they appear on his/her ID card.[/quote]
The woman who does ours works at the Taipei Liaison Office in Pretoria. [/quote]
Yea, no worries there! :discodance:
[quote=“llary”][quote=“speed_maniac”]at times the 20 days will feel even longer than the past 11 months…you will have to fill some more forms once the 12 months are over and then again wait for 7 - 10 days to get the letter saying that u can come and collect your id, better get all the photos and everything ready…getting the ID card takes about 30 mins…ahh after that u still need to get your passport and that takes about 3 - 4 days after u fill in the application…[/quote]MOI said you can get your passport as soon as you become a Taiwan citizen (e.g. before you get household registration)?[/quote]Yes, that’s correct. The day you have your TARC, you can apply for your passport. You need to use your Taiwan passport if you need to leave the island for any reason before your one year waiting period is up. But, by leaving, just resets the clock again and you have to wait for another year from the time you return.
I looked into it, you can leave and come back but the 1 year is extended to 2 or 5 years depending on the amount of time spent away. I planned to stay in limbo like that until I’m too old for conscription
[quote=“bismarck”][quote=“Pioneer Kuro”]Well, well, well, it seems like Bismarck and A-ha are going to take my place in the prison since I am going to be released in about 20 days. Congrats ladies! You are about to receive what seems like the longest year of your life.
Bismarck and A-ha, I think this following matter is very important because I had to do this when I sent my renunciation document back to my home country for attesting (A mate of mine did it for me). But I have no idea whether you have to prepare this thing as well. This is called “ letter of authorization ”. Since you are officially stateless here there is no way you can go back to SA for getting the renunciation document authenticated so that you have to authorize someone to do this job for you. In this case, not only you have to prepare this document but also have to get it notarized by a notary public first and then again get it authenticated by MOFA before being sent to SA along with the renunciation document, without this authorization letter TECO in SA will not authenticate your renunciation document. Remember to write down the name and the ID number of the person who is going to carry your documents to related departments exactly as they appear on his/her ID card.[/quote]
The woman who does ours works at the Taipei Liaison Office in Pretoria. [/quote]
Wow! It would be an inside job, that’s much better. Good luck guys!
Ooopps me bad…yes u are right, once you get the TARC you can apply for your passport but I did not do it because I did not plan on going anywhere for a year…also I did not want to reapply/renew the passport once I got the actual ID card…
[quote=“Pioneer Kuro”][quote=“bismarck”][quote=“Pioneer Kuro”]Well, well, well, it seems like Bismarck and A-ha are going to take my place in the prison since I am going to be released in about 20 days. Congrats ladies! You are about to receive what seems like the longest year of your life.
Bismarck and A-ha, I think this following matter is very important because I had to do this when I sent my renunciation document back to my home country for attesting (A mate of mine did it for me). But I have no idea whether you have to prepare this thing as well. This is called “ letter of authorization ”. Since you are officially stateless here there is no way you can go back to SA for getting the renunciation document authenticated so that you have to authorize someone to do this job for you. In this case, not only you have to prepare this document but also have to get it notarized by a notary public first and then again get it authenticated by MOFA before being sent to SA along with the renunciation document, without this authorization letter TECO in SA will not authenticate your renunciation document. Remember to write down the name and the ID number of the person who is going to carry your documents to related departments exactly as they appear on his/her ID card.[/quote]
The woman who does ours works at the Taipei Liaison Office in Pretoria. [/quote]
Wow! It would be an inside job, that’s much better. Good luck guys![/quote]
Yep! Inside job. I’ve sent mine off to her already, so it should be there early next week. So hopefully it should be back here and ready for translation and the KHH MOFA stamp by 10 to 15 May. If all goes well, I hope to have my TARC before my 36th birthday. :discodance:
I want to get it just to have it. To believe it’s real. The TARC looks way too much like the ARC/PARC/JFRV.
Bis if it helps you get thru the 1 year prison sentence then it is worth it…
BTW good to know that your case has really progressed a lot…i am sure u will be a very very happy man the day u get yr TARC…u really have gone thru a lot…
NS if i am not mistaken it does not re-set the clock…i think it is something like this
365 days after getting the TARC - if u have not left Taiwan during that period then u can apply for yr ID card
If you did leave the country during that period then u can only apply after 2 yrs of getting yr TARC ( from the date of issue of the TARC ) and in those 2 yrs you should have lived in Taiwan for at least 270 days per year.
If you have been out of Taiwan for more than 90 days in those 2 years then I think you have to wait for 5 years ( or was it 3 yrs?? ) after getting your TARC and in those (3)5 years you should lived in Taiwan for 180/183 days per year.
I had this information somewhere but can’t find it now. sorry!!
NS if i am not mistaken it does not re-set the clock…i think it is something like this
365 days after getting the TARC - if u have not left Taiwan during that period then u can apply for yr ID card
If you did leave the country during that period then u can only apply after 2 yrs of getting yr TARC ( from the date of issue of the TARC ) and in those 2 yrs you should have lived in Taiwan for at least 270 days per year.
If you have been out of Taiwan for more than 90 days in those 2 years then I think you have to wait for 5 years ( or was it 3 yrs?? ) after getting your TARC and in those (3)5 years you should lived in Taiwan for 180/183 days per year.
I had this information somewhere but can’t find it now. sorry!![/quote]Yeah. You’re right. I didn’t make my self clear. To me…it FEELS like the clock would get reset and make the wait for getting full citizenship unbearable. Therefore, for me…the day I get my TARC, I will sit on my ass on this island for the full 365 days until I take my final final physical exam and apply for my HHR and ID card. I won’t leave Taiwan, until I’ve got it ALL!
Thanks for the specific details regarding what happens if you leave Taiwan during your TARC period. I’ll print it out and file it under, “DON’T EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING THIS!”. :roflmao:
NS i think this was also mentioned somewhere very early in the thread by Cooling Tower and also Sat Tv…
well if you are over 36 ( 37 to be exact ) then the best thing is to sit out the one year…
but this is the one thing that has it’s plus point…for someone like Llary it is a blessing in disguise because he can get his TARC and his passport and sill travel around freely to all the countries that offer a visa on landing and wait till he is 37 to then apply for the ID card. Only traveling to China ( and I guess to other places which need you to apply for a visa in advance ) will be a problem because for that you need to submit you passport and ID card.
if they made it compulsory to wait in Taiwan for a year and apply for the ID card immediately after the one year was over then it would be a major stumbling block for all the guys and gals who are “under age”!!
so let’s be hush hush about this matter and not bring it in the forefront!
Really Taiwan should offer citizenship without requiring relinquishing ones original citizenship if that person’s nation allows ROC citizens to become its citizens without requiring them to give up their ROC citizenship. Should be reciprocal.
[quote=“speed_maniac”]
good to know you got your medical done, i stopped thinking about the reason why they ask u to do it…so did u too have to first take an appointment and then go and do the medical on the appointed date?? [/quote]
No appointment necessary since they do not seem to get a lot of traffic.
[quote=“llary”]EXACTLY! There is a one year grace period between household registration and conscription already, but a TARC can be renewed indefinitely. Now shhh [/quote]I don’t get what all the crybaby nonsense regarding doing military service is all about. I did 20 years voluntarily, without whining about it! Taiwan has what now? 6 months and you can choose alternate “brown shirt” duty in lieu of actual military service? Cry me a river! You know what? I’m calling the NIA on Monday and I’m going to alert them to all this “service avoidance attitude”. I’ll fix you guys! ha
well Tommy as u know there are a lot of things that Taiwan should do but they don’t so like snakes we just have to sort of move through the cracks in the system…
the medical exam after one year of stay in Taiwan is not logically, they should be asking for the medical at the time of application…if i have stayed for 1 year in Taiwan and then picked up some disease in that one year then what? will they not given me citizenship? my country of origin will not take me back then what am i supposed to do?? live on a boat somewhere in the pacific??
the 1 year house arrest - i had asked them this and they said well this rule is for the overseas Chinese who have ROC passports and if they want to get an ID card they have to say for 1 year in Taiwan etc etc, I said aren’t these two different cases, I am an immigrant and just to apply for citizenship I have already had to stay 3/5/7 years in Taiwan, the overseas Chinese with ROC passports just need to stay here for 1 year to get their ID card so that is 1 year against 3/5/7 years…
the usual reply was " ohh…ummm…eee…oooo…"
basically once we get our TARC we are considered Taiwan nationals same as the overseas Chinese who have ROC passports and like them if we want the ID card and become citizens we have to stick around for another year…
frankly speaking for immigrants they should change it to some like in the US, you get an ARC or an PARC and that is equivalent to getting a green card in the US and after 5 years with min 183 days per year in Taiwan you can apply for citizenship and once the whole procedure is over you become a citizen and get your ID card…no TARC and no 1 year waiting period etc…
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I’ve sent mine off to her already, so it should be there early next week. So hopefully it should be back here and ready for translation and the KHH MOFA stamp by 10 to 15 May. If all goes well, I hope to have my TARC before my 36th birthday. :discodance:
[/quote]I don’t get what all the crybaby nonsense regarding doing military service is all about. I did 20 years voluntarily, without whining about it! Taiwan has what now? 6 months and you can choose alternate “brown shirt” duty in lieu of actual military service? Cry me a river! You know what? I’m calling the NIA on Monday and I’m going to alert them to all this “service avoidance attitude”. I’ll fix you guys! ha 