How to Survive Tinder and the Dating Apocalypse

Although I do not have said app and would not consider installing it, I do hve something to chip in. Last time I dated, I did not know what Tinder is. I do not even know if it existed back then, so I was reduced to harvesting telephone numbers, which I happily did.

My take on it is that if you are looking for a quick roll in the hay, lower your standards. if she if female, she has a pulse and she is willing to shag, what more do you want?

So what are you looking for? Are you trying to say that you cant get the good looking girls? I agree that most girls use very flattering pics on apps. I dont see the point, its only going to lead to disappointment when the reality s revealed. Welcome to asia

yeah I never understood the strategy of using overly-flattering pictures. Sure you don’t want to use the worst ones, but I’ve heard two major complaints from other women about online dating 1) way too many messages in general and 2) way too many messages from guys only looking for sex.
My strategy has been to use only moderately attractive pics that could not in any way be considered sexy - unless you think my interests and hobbies are sexy. Problems solved, killed two birds with one stone: The guys who are only looking for sex pass me by, and there’s a reduction in low-quality messages. So far, I haven’t had a single ā€œbad dateā€ from online dating.

Personally, yes, I’m looking for a good looking (among other good qualities) girl to be my girlfriend. It’s not that I can’t get one, because I have met and dated some before. In fact I met one recently on the MRT who is quite cute, and I’m optimistic that we’ll become bf and gf. But looking for an exclusive girlfriend on Tinder just seemed to be a huge waste of time. So I was not able to get dates with good looking girls on Tinder, where I’m perfectly capable of it when meeting in person and I break out of my introverted shell.

I think its not an easy task to get a goodlooking one online due to guys. Guys are desperate. Even the average girls will be flooded with messages. The good looking ones it doesnt even bear thinking about the amount of attention they are receiving…

Maybe, but this isn’t mainland China where the guy/girl ratio is out of whack. I’ve also met a few girls from Tinder who were quite adamant about pursuing me even though I wasn’t interested. I’d say they were pretty average looking. Then you move up the attractiveness scale just one or two points and you either get no response or getting her to come out for a coffee and a chat is like pulling teeth. From a guy’s perspective, getting casual sex on Tinder should be a cakewalk, but finding an actual girlfriend that you’d want to be with for the long term is just an exercise in futility.

Hang on a minute - are you using a hook-up app to look for a girlfriend, and who knows, perhaps a future wife?

That’s not right. You should look elsewhere, like off-line and get to know her before you split her lengthwise.

My wife and I dates as friends for 6 months before I even kissed her.

Ok so the average ones might not get so many? You have to remember too that average here for us(westerners) is basically below average for taiwan. Unless big googly eyes is what you go for.. But the hot ones have zillions of messages guantaneed. There is another app called skout and has a social media type feature where u can like and comment on a girls pic. All the hot ones have maxed out their likes and their photos are full of cringeworthy desperate comments that all go ignored. Its just the reality. Oh and any girl showing a bit of boob = maxed out likes guaranteed.

I used various methods. I was even considering attending a local speed dating event, but never got around to it. But it would seem that dating apps are much more geared to producing the kinds of matches that result in hookups rather than long term relationships.

Wow! 6 months is really long, however if it results in a good long term relationship, I can’t knock it.

Maybe we need to teach Western guys not to put out on the first date. :slight_smile:

Alas all the cute ones on there are ā€˜active’, just not with 99% of the ppl who contact them. They’re picky and they have a large selection of lean guys who look horrible naked but good in expensive clothing.

If you’re ā€œabove average lookingā€ I don’t understand why you don’t go clubbing or stand in a crowded place.. girls will talk to you, and you’ll know you’re on the right track when ppl start asking to take pics with you.

I know a couple that met on Tinder and are now married.

It’s just another way to meet people. What you do with them after you meet them is still up to you. If you are looking for a lifetime partner, then decide if this is the one after you meet them. If you are looking to hook up for a one night stand, then decide after you meet them. Some people are looking for a partner, some people are just looking for sex. It’s the same now as it’s been for thousands of years.

Apps are just another way to meet people and do whatever you would of done anyway after you meet them. Two thousand years ago, it was the village matchmaker, today, it is the smartphone app matchmaker.

Like I said before, I use any avenue that gets results. Not a big fan of drinking, but I do go to bars and clubs on occasion and have met girls that way. But it just seemed to me that the average quality of girls that I met on dating apps just seemed to be far below that of the ones I met in my daily life, so I was wondering if anyone else had noticed the same thing.

Did u hear that? Just go and stand outside BRUh.

Tinder is probably great for the Taiwanese dating process, which is basically involves men chasing (čæ½) some handful of Taiwanese women, and then said Taiwanese women picking the richest, most presentable male among what they could attract to help spawn and raise their 1.1 children each.

It probably explains why it’s beating the pants off of homegrown apps like Paktor and iPair. Literally, Paktor’s advertisement sells the lie that Taiwanese men will get to fuck models if they use it:

For some reason, they used some acquaintance of mine for this other one. I didn’t even know he was an actor.

But, both of them are totally worthless, just nonfunctional, buggy pay-to-play apps. The major US apps are all being sold under an IPO called The Match Group, so don’t be surprised if, in five years, you’re OKCuplentyoftinderfishing with some universal IAC app that knows your deepest, pervy past, and then gets hacked so that everyone can know what cads we men are.

=) It’s kind of hard to put up with your unceasing optimism. Do people ever get annoyed at you for being so cheerful?

You should see me when I drive.

Can someone explair Paktor…it literally sucks cause you gotta pay to see their messages and you cant reply without paying 999 per month.

Interestingly, I can. There are basically two means of revenue for apps: ad revenue and pay-to-play (which includes ā€œfreemiumā€ service). It turns out that the greatest source of revenue for most apps is the latter, not the former, so various copycat apps have been thrown up in an attempt to grab certain populations of users.

Most of these apps are unoriginal from a programming perspective. In fact, a good many of them literally lift the exact same code and make minor graphical redesigns and rearrangements. That said, companies (like whoever green-lights Paktor) see the development of a dating app as a cash grab opportunity. Their business model is to get women (or men advertising women for prostitution) to post profiles, which they then use to lure male users, who will be most likely to pay for the chance to chat with said profiles. The key term is ā€œprofiles.ā€ In most cases, you have no idea whether the person on the other end is whom they present themselves to be. FGAS and other modest deceptions on the female end aside, a substantial portion of female users are turned off rather quickly by the dick brigade that they face once they set up their profiles, and most abandon dating sites and apps inside of forty-five days (if I remember correctly). But, most users of profile sites and apps don’t delete their profiles once they’re tired of using them; instead, they just stop logging in. That amounts to handing a company data for it to turn around and use as the aforementioned lure. It’s all pretty scummy, and in Paktor’s case, all for a 2% turnaround.

It’s not just Paktor, either. Tinder recently eliminated its feature that showed when users were last online, namely so that it could make it impossible to tell who the active and inactive users were, and thus increase the amount of time that active users spend on the app (sending even more messages that will never be read).

ā€œBut, what about reviews? Wouldn’t they worry that people would begin criticizing their app, thus discouraging customers from downloading it?ā€

Honestly, reviews on sites like Google Play or the App Store have been made into a market all its own. Companies (in India) receive money from app developers to bump their download rates, positive review counts, and even positive written reviews so that they appear more prominently on app download sites. Some companies advertise their apps on other apps, promising temporary freemium service on the other apps in exchange for downloads of their own apps. Thus, the only way now to judge the quality of an app with any accuracy is to read the negative reviews only, and to survey the nature of their complaints. Paktor isn’t exactly shining.

How far away are racial filters?

A cup size filter would be nice :joy:

Don’t most dating apps already have that filter?