I have the same allergy! I have been told that it is an allergy to the sap on the mango…if it is peeled without getting any of the sap on the fruit part I’m eating, I’m fine, but if the sap gets on the fruit my face and lips swell up, my hands and feet swell and become intolerably itchy, and my whole body feels kind of itchy and uncomfortable for about an hour or two. It started in my late 20’s.
mango sap is nasty stuff anyway … it’s toxic and somewhat corrosive (AFAIK it’s the sap that causes the black spots on ripe mangoes). I don’t think it’s exactly an “allergic” reaction, pretty much anybody will have the same response to some extent. Cashews (related) are even worse.
Yeah, most people don’t know it, but cashews are fatally toxic if not harvested and prepared correctly. Crazy stuff.
I have the mango allergy too. Over the course of several hours my head swells up like a balloon and I scare small children in the street. It’s from touching the skin as far as I can understand. I’ve inadvertently eaten mango not prepared by me and had no reaction. Whenever I have medical treatment they always ask “Are you allergic to anything?” So I say “just mangoes”. Then they laugh condescendingly and say “Well, you aren’t likely to get given mangoes here.” I mean, I know that, but they did ask!
I’m reminded of one of my Muslim students who asked the catering staff if there was any pork in the dish she chose. They said no but she found herself spitting out pieces of bacon. When challenged they replied “There isn’t any pork. That’s bacon.”
I can’t imagine what it must be like having a life-threatening allergy to a common food. A friend of mine has a daughter who’s allergic to peanuts, wheat, dairy and one or two other things. I don’t think they eat out much. I don’t think I could put my life in the hands of strangers if I had a choice about it. I think there’s a lot of disbelief around allergies if you don’t have any personal experience of them; a tendency to think it’s just fussiness. So caterers can’t be relied upon to pay attention.
Actually, my son registered an allergy to a whole list of things. Wheat, grass, eggs, peanuts, cheese, mites, cockroaches, mangoes, avacados, tuna, fish, seafood, shellfish, seawead. . . I can’t even remember the entire list now.
The Dr. told me that this didn’t actually mean he was trully allergic to all these things. Apparently, he’s extremely allergic to anything that grew/lived in the sea, and to avacados. The rest is just kind of residual allergen stuff. Like his body is was so extremely allergic at the time of the test, that nearly everything tested for brought back a positive result.
He identified the sea life and mangoes by doing more, and different allergen tests and getting results from several different labs.
At first I was terrified that just anything at all would make him allergic, but after a couple of weeks when he began to get better, it was clear that he really wasn’t likely to be sick if he ate bread, or walked accross some grass.
But we don’t eat out much any more, for sure. And this is really not easy. I like to cook very much, but don’t have a lot of time for it. Plus, it’s often more economical to eat out here (depending on where you’re eating).
We’d have no problem in the states, but here there is fish in everything. Little tiny woodfish, ground up, are in just EVERYTHING. Wan tan soup, with no fish, has woodfish as soup flavoring, usually. Oyster sauce, fish sause, or even if there’s no fish, fish has usually been cooked in the same oil as other stuff.
Yes, fish or fish derivative is like salt here. It must be really hard being a strict vegetarian.
Wow, I’m so concerned with my own preoccupation of staying a live, all these other types of serious allergies were actually news to me. Wow, you can learn a lot.
Cashews Toxic??? Can I trust big nut company here that uses the outline of the State of California as their logo?
Not only am I allergic but I have a small low blood sugar problem so I always keep peanuts and cashew as my emergency energy food. Those are also my staple snacks and substitute meal if I’m in fish country.
Allergy to Mangoes, Garlic and other vegetables or meats are hard for me to understand. So I have to give these local people a little credit. But still, even if I find it unbelievable, I’d still accept that it is true and do my best to serve or turn away the customer.
Housecat. Was your sons test a blood test or a scratch test. My blood actually turns out to have no allergies. The allergist in Kaohsiung that I saw offered the scratch test but he said that … since he has seem my reactions… The test may be an unnecessary risk.
I was going for “dust-mite” desensitization at the time. After each treatment, I still had to take an antil histamine pill.
Just for some information. The pill stopped the secondary reaction but it did not interfere with the desensitization process.
I’m still thinking of going for the scratch test.
Very upsetting. Im sorry to hear the difficulties.
I used to work in an Asthma and Allergy place. you wouldn’t believe the things that people are allergic to. o_O
Growing up, we always are made aware of peanut, chocolate, shell fish allergies and we’re trained to be aware.
Working in the buxiban, I’ve found there is a complete lack of awareness. I very rarely prepare snacks for the kids, but when I do I always ask “Are you allergic to the chocolate? What about the peanut butter?” and the moment a kid gives me a weird face I go running to the laoban “Does so-and-so have an allergy?” and then I get the “What the fuck are you on about?” Taiwanese look.
They understand what an allergy is. But they dont have the training/awareness campaigns that we do so of course, they dont make it a priority.
Allergies and asthma is very common among young children in Taiwan, but I believe it is mostly to household dust and air pollution.
That’s another thing, there’s a Japanese flavor enhancer widely used made from fish.
Blood tests.
Look at this… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Katsuobushi_block.JPG
It’s called Bonito, Katsuobushi, wood fish and an other number of evil names. It is in everything, including most BBQ sauces, fish bases, chicken marinade and a thousand other places. I’ve even seen fish in the most common Steak Sauces, mushroom flavor, even… nothing to do with fish but it’s in there…
Read all ingredients carefully and even with that, there are no guarantees here.
Fellow fish allergy heads… if you want to enjoy Chinese BBQ, you can do what I do. I buy the "Vegetarian BBQ sauce with the Buddhist symbol on it. I also carry my own barbecue.
Would this recall happen in Taiwan… from the allergy alert network …
Fish Allergy Alert: Nestlé Prepared Foods Company
April 17, 2012
Nestlé Prepared Foods Company announced today that it is voluntarily recalling two hour codes of STOUFFER’S® Satisfying Servings Lasagna Italiano because the
package may contain STOUFFER’S Stuffed Peppers. While the Stuffed Peppers are wholesome, the recipe includes Worcestershire Sauce—which contains anchovy as
an ingredient–and there is no Anchovy allergen statement on the Lasagna Italiano package. Consumers who are allergic to fish should not consume this product…
I’m curious - where did all these allergies come from? They seem to be a lot more prevalent nowadays.
When I was a kid, a lot of these allergies that seem common today didn’t exist. No one had a peanut allergy. Epipen? Until I read this thread I’d never even heard of them, and apparently now all kids have them.
WTF have we done to our food supply and environment that’s causing all this?
You’re assuming incidence has gone up. It may have, but when diagnoses of a condition go up, it can be due to various factors – increased incidence, or unchanged incidence but more frequent, correct diagnosis, or overdiagnosis, and/or hysteria, or some combination thereof.
Yeah, I’m assuming incidence is up as I don’t recall ever hearing of any serious cases at all when I was at school. Whole classes eating peanut butter sandwiches and nobody having any problems.
I believe that the incidents of allergies are actually going up. I always have talk radio as background noise. Mostly BBC and other news sources. I remember a show that actually stated that the incidents of allergies, especially peanut allergies was going up… They stated a number of reasons for their that may cause this but I can’t remember. I think it was how we are processing foods, lack of breast feeding and are our over concern for germs.
Here is an article from the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical_health/conditions/in_depth/allergies/allergicconditions_food.shtml
One dominant theory is that in our increasingly sanitized environment children’s immune systems aren’t as challenged as they need to be, and so go into overdrive, identifying normal things as potential enemies. The allergic reaction is supposed to be akin to the reaction you get when you fight off a disease, though I’ve never really understood where the throat closing/head swelling aspect comes into this.
A mother I know here told me the other day that her son’s doctor actually told her to let him get dirty. That’s some radical advice here on the rock, but right on the money.
I believe food allergies have gone up due mostly to how over processed everything is. We shoot farm grown poultry and fish full of both growth hormones and antibiotics. We shoot dairy cows full of hormones that make them produce far more milk than a nursing cow–even if they’ve never given birth.
We homogenize and genetically engineer grain and other staple crops to be disease resistant and to mega-yield.
No, I haven’t done a lot of research about all of this, and I’m not going to. The information I’m talking about is just want I’ve learned from reading this and that, and from talking to local growers who sold veggies at the farmer’s market back in my home states.
But trully natural foods almost don’t exist any more. Think you can get around this by “growing your own?” (ha) Where will you get your seeds? Think you have a source of un-engeneered seed products from which to grow trully natural foods? Where did your neighbor get his seeds? The bees, apparently, can’t tell a difference–and are dieing too. I have no idea if there’s a link there, but it’s pretty tough to imagine that you can mess around with you food to the extent that we have and not expect some side effects.
You have to use an appropriate fuel for the engine you’re running, and we’ve re-formulated the fule.
Indeed. We fiddle with stuff to such an extent it’s impossible to tell what’s hurting us and what isn’t.
The bee thing, according to the latest research, is almost certainly caused by (or greatly exacerbated by) pesticides. Well, duh.
Growing your own isn’t a bad idea. The seeds you buy off the shelf have been genetically selected, certainly, but they haven’t had foreign genes inserted. Right now I’m planting out some herbs and veg in a big 200-liter window box I just built. It can be done.