I want to Immigrate to Canada, Australia, or Europe

Legal Dual Nationality
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I hope this isn’t a repost. I don’t think it is.

Does anybody have any positive or constructive feedback, experience or suggestions?

I’ve only seen a lawyer route, but I don’t want to pay large sums of money, as that and time are what I lack.

Unfortunately, I have to add a standard disclaimer.

I’m not trying to piss anybody off, and if that’s your goal direct your energies toward yourself.

If any further details are needed, they’re below:

I’m an american man with a B.S. degree (like that matters) who wants to immigrate out of america because everything I’ve learned and everyone from these other countries has told me that these other countries are drastically to almost infinitely better than america.

Some people will probably start foaming at the mouth, screaming and shaking, trying to insult me in blind rage with bloodshot eyes, but in many western european countries people get, 2 months paid vacation per year, free college, retirement, free health care, relaxed laws, nude beaches, more organic food and healthier overall energies.

They also get super high taxes, cold weather, snobby attitudes, socialism, too much tea and so forth.

I don’t want responses from people who like the privatized health care, the privatized prisons, the privatized armies, unrestrained capitalism, religious fundamentalism and dog eat dog mentality that america embraces.

All countries have very serious problems yes, but it’s a matter of magnitude, area and philosophy.

Obama might make things better, but he’ll need to move mountain ranges before the us remotely resembles a country that I want to associate with.

Again, please, no fucking bullshit irate insulting responses.

I’ve had stunningly positive, helpful answers to my posts, but also bizarre blog-rage answers to queries, and caution posts I’ve written.

Positive constructive criticism will be greatly appreciated.

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After reading your posts, I don’t think you want to immigrate to any of those places in the title. You want to go to Queensland, mate. thewildeast.net/infocus/queensland/

Not too taxed. Not too cold. Not tooo socialist, and not too snobby.

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As an American moving to Canada I wouldn’t think that would be a problem at all, right?

As to the UK and Australia, I know Oz has a points system which would depend a lot on your age and qualifications. You would be much better served if you had a concrete job offer (a sponsor). I imagine SatelliteTV would know a lot more about that than I would.

In Europe you may have some initial language problems and finding a job without an EU passport could be a bitch. I’d imagine that as an American your best bet would be the UK, unless you have ancestral ties (no further back than a grandparent) to another EU country. Once again, a solid job offer would be your best route.

If I were you, I’d do some googling on immigration regarding various countries you’re interested in moving to. Personally, I’d go for Australia, but that’s just my personal preference. I think New Zealand is pretty awesome, also.

To get you started, here are some immigration sites on immigrating to Australia:
liveinaustralia.com/home/vis … bwoduCha6g

immi.gov.au/

immigration2australia.com/

migration.sa.gov.au/centric/home.jsp

And New Zealand:

sakiwi.com/news.php

immigration.govt.nz/

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[quote=“Charlie Phillips”]After reading your posts, I don’t think you want to immigrate to any of those places in the title. You want to go to Queensland, mate. thewildeast.net/infocus/queensland/

Not too taxed. Not too cold. Not tooo socialist, and not too snobby.[/quote]
Yeah, but they have the Reds. Poor bastards. :smiley:

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Marry someone from there.

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:ohreally: Tommy, Tommy, Tommy… :no-no:
Do you even realize what you type before you hit “Submit”?

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Erm. What exactly have you learned? Europe, for example, isn’t a country, although I’m sure that, say, Armenia, would welcome you with open arms as long you have a strong back. How are your potato-picking skillz?
The grass is always greener, mate. Never forget that. Anyway, as a Yanqi, I expect you’d need money to settle pretty much anywhere in Europe. How much you got?

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:ohreally: Tommy, Tommy, Tommy… :no-no:
Do you even realize what you type before you hit “Submit”?[/quote]

Well, the short answer here would be, uh, “no”.

Canada’s the same as anywhere else, there’s a point system.
Alternatively, there’s the entrepeneur option, the numbers change all the time, but basically if you pony up a certain amount and invest it in local business or industry, you get in.
These places all have lists of preferred professions that are given more points than others.
I don’t think a Yank would be given some automatic red carpet welcome, they’d have to qualify like anyone else, the only automatic reccie there would be that you’re a native (sort of) English speaker.
In fact, as I was just discussing with an Aussie mate last week, there’s probably (as there is in AUS and NZ) a bit of under-the-table preference for Commonwealth Cousins, so you wouldn’t necessarily be top of the A list.

You might also be restricted as to which part you could move to for the first 3 years or so.

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:ohreally: Tommy, Tommy, Tommy… :no-no:
Do you even realize what you type before you hit “Submit”?[/quote]

Hey I am trying to find a TAiwanese lady to marry me so I can freely live and work in TAiwan bud. :slight_smile: So its a VALID way ok?

Its like the reverse of what it was before with TW ladies trying to find gringo guys to marry so they can live and work in the USA???

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I think Tommy has a good point there: it IS the fastest, easiest way to get residency.

Of course, it’s not the only reason for marriage, but it is one reason for a good number of people including vast numbers of previous migrants with arranged ‘marriages’ to the rest of their village in a chain that stretches the bounds of ‘family reunion schemes’. And hell, sometimes it actually works.

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[quote=“urodacus”]I think Tommy has a good point there: it IS the fastest, easiest way to get residency.

Of course, it’s not the only reason for marriage, but it is one reason for a good number of people including vast numbers of previous migrants with arranged ‘marriages’ to the rest of their village in a chain that stretches the bounds of ‘family reunion schemes’. And hell, sometimes it actually works.[/quote]

You’ve been pithier, I have to say.

Wittier, too.

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Marriage would be the easiest way to be honest…so hang out with the foreign ladies from countries of your choice!
Otherwise check your ancestry…

Finally it depends on your skillset and you should visit the country before you decide you’d like to put down roots.

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Thanks for the responses.

I’ll check out the internet links.

My skills and money are virtually zero, as is my free time. So checking out a country first would be some fantastic orgiastic dream. But I’ll check out those links anyways.

I’m pleasantly shocked too. That nobody scolded me for wanting to leave “the greatest country on earth.”

Wow.

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[quote=“LV”]Thanks for the responses.

I’ll check out the internet links.

My skills and money are virtually zero, as is my free time. So checking out a country first would be some fantastic orgiastic dream. But I’ll check out those links anyways.

I’m pleasantly shocked too. That nobody scolded me for wanting to leave [color=#FF0000]“the greatest country on earth.”[/color]

Wow.[/quote]
I thought it was just Mexicans, Africans and misguided twenty something Taiwanese who thought that… :whistle: :whistle:

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[quote=“LV”]I’m pleasantly shocked too. That nobody scolded me for wanting to leave “the greatest country on earth.”

Wow.[/quote]

This is an expat forum. Almost everyone here has either left, or wants to leave, their home country. To some extent, you’re preaching to the choir. Always know your audiance.

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[quote=“bismarck”]As an American moving to Canada I wouldn’t think that would be a problem at all, right?

As to the UK and Australia, I know Oz has a points system which would depend a lot on your age and qualifications. You would be much better served if you had a concrete job offer (a sponsor). I imagine SatelliteTV would know a lot more about that than I would.[/quote]

I gave up buying and selling people a long time ago Bismark. However it is a decent profession good money to be made.

The basics for skilled migrants are still the same I am sure the OP could work it out as to whether or not he’s really qualified and should sumbit an application. However many US colleges are not recognized in Australia. So without knowing first if his tertiary qalifications were recognized and if his work experience was considered relevant to those qualifications the OP maybe should just get a 1 year working holiday visa to Australia first.

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I thought you were a Scotsman.

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I thought you were a Scotsman.[/quote]
Grammar polezi! I meant “being as how you’re a Yanq,” of course.

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Hey dude,

To be honestly, europe is quite hard to get dual passport and the living cost is high in UK.
I live in Australia but working in taiwan at moment and to be honest I hate Taiwanese Government because they make me give up my 12 months to fight someone else’s war. If you want to become an Australian citizen, they had a new police since last year that you have to take the citizenship test but you have to live there for 2 years without leaving the country. Anyway, the citizenship test is a joke and you ask any local guys there who was the Australia’s first prminister? and I gurantee you no one knows.

I’ve always want to work in the States as a pilot because job opportunity over there is much greater than here in OZ. I’ve tried to go there but nearly got sucked in by the lack of information provided by the flying school and they haven’t been quite communitive about it and till i found out the truth that I had to give up my dream of working there as a pilot. The pay isn’t great over there, but I need the hours on the plane.

Anyway, good things about America are the guns that I am dream of having one/few that it deems to be illegal here in Australia. Also, the fender strats are much cheaper there too, but then the pay is low over there so, money is a bitch.

IF you need to know more about Australia, i am the man for that… Oh yeah, we drive on the correct side of the road.

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:roflmao:

Moving to one of the most gun violent countries in the world to play with guns. :s America is numb to gun violence.
You must be from the “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people” school