Cancer patient loses her employer-based insurance
But… but… :ohreally:
As long as the list of weird off the wall things you’ve said on this forum is, that one may actually be the most out there. Am I really debating with someone who thinks Washington is running “as intended” right now? Seriously? 
No wonder you didn’t have a problem with the government shutdown…
Why don’t you explain to us, using the US Constitution, how the US Federal Government is not running as intended with specific reference to the shutdown? 
You do understand that the US was founded and established as a representative republic rather than as a pure democracy? You do understand the concept of checks and balances, right?
It really doesn’t matter how many times you ask people, you do understand this and you do understand that, it doesn’t change the fact that THEY DO understand it, every bit as much as you do. I’m not sure why you feel you are privy to information about the US that none of the rest of us have but whatever blows your skirt up…
And I really have no desire to explain why the Tea Party is obstructionist. It’s something that many people just consider common sense. I’m not surprised an old Tea Party supporter such as yourself is going to try to act as if that’s not the case, but why you think I’d waste my time arguing with someone who has more in common with my grandfather then myself is beyond me.
If you want to continue thinking the Tea Party is not obstructionist, go ahead. :loco: I suspect you’re going to have a front row seat to the textbook definition of what being marginalized means. Let’s see if you feel the same way you do now in 2016 and beyond ok? Go go Tea Party :roflmao:
Right. Just as I expected. You have no answer. :roflmao:
You keep saying you understand things, but, when asked to explain your assertions, you run away. Or, you throw out a strawman.
You really think that i am arguing that the Tea Party is not obstructionist? Really? 
You do not understand the law of self defense and you do not understand how the US Federal Government is supposed to work. If you did, you would not make such outlandishly ignorant statements.
Oh my, the opposition party opposes legislation proposed by the ruling party! Those obstructionists! 
I never said that the Tea Party is not obstructionist. If you could read, you would understand that I stated instead that obstructionism is how our system works, and that is by deliberate design.
But, I get it. You fancy yourself a know-it-all…
Yes, you know everything!
You’re asking me to explain something that nearly everybody else considers common knowledge? It seems that’s a common request on your part Tigerman :loco:
I’m amazed you can even tie your own shoes
This is wrong on two counts.
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There is no requirement that the House fund the law. None. In fact, the opposite is true.
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POTUS does not have discretion re implementing the law. Article II, Sec. 3 of the US Constitution states that POTUS shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed. Nowhere in this is POTUS empowered to use his/her discretion to implement a law. Faithfully executed. Not executed at discretion.
Don’t try to tell us that you understand these things!
[quote=“BrentGolf”]You’re asking me to explain something that nearly everybody else considers common knowledge? It seems that’s a common request on your part Tigerman :loco:
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You have several times complained that I employ cut and paste in my posting and that I do not express original ideas. yet, hypocritically, you are the poster boy for cut and pasting charts from other people’s work and now you are simply parroting what everyone else says.
I don’t care what everyone else says if they are wrong.
So, some sloppy journalists complain that obstructionist opposition parties cause dysfunction in the government… and you buy into this hogwash as something new? Look, kid, as someone who has been around a lot longer than you, and who has studied history, I can tell you with certainty that opposition parties have been acting in obstructionist manners since the beginning of the US as a nation. That’s how our Government was intentionally set up to operate. Its part of our system of checks and balances and protection of the minority… Perhaps you’ve heard of these concepts?
Is it possible for you to think before speaking? The reason we cut and paste CHARTS and DATA is because nobody compiles that data on their own. Do you honestly expect me to calculate the friggin unemployment rate MYSELF? To calculate GDP, consumer spending, housing starts, manufacturing data, business inventories, household debt, initial jobless claims, etc etc etc? I copy and paste DATA, and interpret it myself. You copy and paste peoples opinions, and pass it off as your own. Big difference there old man.
I think I was being way to presumptuous when I said I’m amazed you can even tie your own shoes. I’m wondering if that’s even true…
Uh, I cite other people’s opinions when I cut and paste. I even link to the sites.
I cite other people’s opinions and I cite the laws. I know you have a problem with appeals to authority… but, that’s what we do in legal disputes.
Not my problem if you cannot get your head around this simple concept.
Now, quick! Go find us another chart from Gallup of a poll regarding the problem of dysfunctional government! The man on the street! That’s the authority we must look to, eh?
Remember, we’re talking about SETTLED LAW here. Post another irrelevant chart! Anything to avoid my questions or avoid dealing with the authoritative sources I cite to show how you do not understand things!
Are you unable to admit when you’re wrong? 
That’s funny! BrentGlof’s pretzel logic, indeed!
That’s what I love about you Tigerman. You’re an old senile southern Tea Party Republican educated in Texas in the 50’s (or was it Alabama?) yet you speak like you’re a 14 year old school girl. And please continue calling me sonny boy, a young punk, a kid, etc. I’m 38, but I know to you that must seem at least 3 generations away. 
Still avoiding the issue…
Come on, Brent! Its OK to admit that you don’t know everything! 
But, damn… 38, and you still think an opposition party acting in an obstructionist manner in the US Government is some sort of new dysfunction?
Ya know… Just because Obama and the Dems label every opposition to their policy plans a crisis… that doesn’t mean there really is a crisis.
The Tea Party is obstructionist in a GOOD way.
You can go ahead and continue thinking that obstructionism is not a problem in Washington, that’s fine. I assure you that most of the rest of the world feels it’s common sense and understands it’s become a serious issue, regardless of how clueless you are. You know, it’s a probably a good thing you don’t know anything about Economics, because if you did it would be absolutely impossible to reconcile the dangerous antics of your beloved Tea Party. Ignorance is bliss huh Tigerman?
Yeah who cares about credit rating. Who cares what happens to Treasury’s and the US Dollar. Who cares about silly things like defaulting on debt. Do you even know what those things are and what they mean? Do you understand how the world economies work and why it’s vitally important that the US gets their shit together? Do you have any idea what the consequences would be if we let idiots like your hero Ted Cruz take the US into default? Of course you don’t, la la la the founding fathers intended the US to lose credit rating over politics right? You may find it easier to breath if you pull your head out of the sand.
I’ll do that, Brent!
You can keep on trying to show us all how smart you are… :roflmao:
Here’s a good book for you, Brent:
So it seems you and Ted Cruz do have a lot in common. You’re on a forum recommending your favorite book, and he’s in the Senate reading Green Eggs and Ham. You two would really hit it off.
Let’s try to stay within the lines here, folks.
You’re forgeting something, Brent!
Ted Cruz and I were both right about ObamaCare! The Dems should have listened!
Really? Any of us getting ahead of ourselves? Anyone getting caught up in the vortex of boredom at work and the media?
Let’s see if in 12 months how much of these dire prognostications come to pass.
[quote=“Elegua”]Really? Any of us getting ahead of ourselves? Anyone getting caught up in the vortex of boredom at work and the media?
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I do believe that ObamaCare is going to have major problems as time goes on.
However, my reference above is to the final proposal during the shutdown made by House GOP to Obama and the Senate Dems, i.e., that 1) ObamaCare implementation of the Individual Mandate be delayed and 2) that the med device tax be taken out.
The Dems screamed and hollered that there could be NO delay and they refused to negotiate or even consider a delay. Now, a few short weeks later, many of them, including Obumbler, are crying for a delay in implementation of the individual mandate.
Actually things seem to be already turning in favor of obamacare. It’s been obvious for a while that where health care exchange websites work people are signing up. Medicaid enrollment is working as planned in states that are taking advantage of it, and even the dreaded healthcare.gov is working okay these days.
As I predicted, when the usual suspects say something is a disaster (or conversely, no big deal) then you need to wait and see. These are, after all, people who were arguing that Iraq was no worse than New Orleans when it was descending into civil war.
Problems remain of course, but Rowland and others’ contention that in order to have an adult conversation one had to agree that the ACA was FUBAR is simply looking more and more premature if not hysterical.