International Politics Forum Feedback (Part 2)

What a load of shit.

I should add this.

Maoman floundered my threads titled “RASCAL LIED RE WMD”. He hasn’t yet advised as to the exact reason those threads were floundered. In these threads, I used Rascal’s own argument and applied it to Rascal’s own statements to illustrate the absurdity of Rascal’s argument as he applied the same to Bush. For some reason, this use of sarcasm and irony, previously pronounced acceptable, and even clever, by Maoman with respect to political debate, was then floundered by Moaman.

If Moaman floundered my “Rascal Lied” threads because he viewed them as unappropriate “personal attacks”, then Maoman is a hypocrite for two reasons:

  1. Because Maoman has argued with me that sarcasm and irony are acceptable methods of debate and insult. My “Rascal Lied” threads were examples of sarcasm and irony as used in political debate.

  2. Because Maoman reserves for himself the right to emply direct insult, i.e., his use of the title “Village Idiot”, which he bestows, at his sole discretion, on certain Forumosans. He does this despite the fact that he argued with me that direct insults are unacceptable forms of debate.

After having read the thread in the insider forum I stand corrected on the issue why Tigerman resigned.

My humble apologizes.

Rgds,
Rascal

I interpreted the rules in my way and received Maoman’s continuing (at the time) support. If you have a problem with moderators interpreting and applying the rules in a discretionary manner, perhaps you should reprimand Maoman:

[quote=“Maoman”]I’ll be filling in for a while until we get a new moderator, so go easy on me guys, ok?..

Oh, and just in case you forgot, here’s a copy of [url=Da Rules - http://forumosa.com/taiwan/rules.php - #12 by maoman Rules[/url]. I will be enforcing them at my discretion. :smiling_imp: [/quote]

I’ll expect to see your public criticism of Maoman in these forums soon… :unamused:

[quote=“Rascal”]After having read the thread in the insider forum I stand corrected on the issue why Tigerman resigned.

My humble apologizes.[/quote]

Accepted. No problem now on that issue.

By the way, in the Kerry thread

What was removed?

Or am I just missing a joke?

A reference to myself.

Rascal
Moderator IP Forum

A reference to myself.

Rascal
Moderator IP Forum[/quote]

Uh-huh. That whiffs a bit.

There is such a heavy bias towards US politics in the IP forum, the rest of the world is getting sidelined.

Mods: IMHO, time to split it up and let the Americans bicker amongst themselves to give others a chance to reflect on the problems of the world beyond Hicksville, AR (or wherever).

It is getting extremely tiresome, lopsided and perpetuates the notion that nothing happens outside the US or areas where the US is heavily involved.

Admin, mods: How about it?

BroonAfricaAsiaAntarcticaAustralasiaAndTheRest

[quote=“BroonAle”]Mods: IMHO, time to split it up and let the Americans bicker amongst themselves to give others a chance to reflect on the problems of the world beyond Hicksville, AR (or wherever).[/quote]The chance is there. Nobody is stopping anyone from discussing these things.

Normally, a new forum is only created when a significant body of posts has built up and the need is felt to put them in a dedicated area.

Perhaps you could work on this?

By the way, this really belongs in the feedback forum.

[quote=“BroonAle”]There is such a heavy bias towards US politics in the IP forum, the rest of the world is getting sidelined.

Mods: IMHO, time to split it up and let the Americans bicker amongst themselves to give others a chance to reflect on the problems of the world beyond Hicksville, AR (or wherever).

It is getting extremely tiresome, lopsided and perpetuates the notion that nothing happens outside the US or areas where the US is heavily involved.

Admin, mods: How about it?

BroonAfricaAsiaAntarcticaAustralasiaAndTheRest[/quote]

Wait a minute. I’m confused.

I thought people were complaining that every time they peeked in IP they saw nothing but FS threads blasting away at Europe, France and Germany. Now you’re telling us that the IP Forum contains too much US content threads.

My head is spinning, BroonAdjustment. You are always on the cutting edge… :wink: :notworthy:

[quote=“joesax”][quote=“BroonAle”]
Normally, a new forum is only created when a significant body of posts has built up and the need is felt to put them in a dedicated area.

Perhaps you could work on this?

By the way, this really belongs in the feedback forum.[/quote][/quote]

Hasn’t a ‘a significant body of posts’ already built up? This is my point. If this were to be put in the Feedback Forum now, there would be very little feedback from IP posters who generally are ‘daily’ posters. As it concerns politics and the nature of debate, it should remain here for a few days, frankly as this is where the it is easiest to guage opinion.

How about a poll? One week to assess feedback and then a decision based on the results?

Seems reasonable to me.

BroonAle

[quote=“BroonAle”]If this were to be put in the Feedback Forum now, there would be very little feedback from IP posters who generally are ‘daily’ posters.[/quote]Why do you think that? New posts in the Feedback Forum come up OK on your “posts since last visit”, don’t they?

And I’m a little confused. You say that there aren’t many posts on non-US related issues because people are reluctant to post these. Then you say that there is a significant body of posts. Which is it?

[quote=“The Magnificent Tigerman”]
Wait a minute. I’m confused.

I thought people were complaining that every time they peeked in IP they saw nothing but FS threads blasting away at Europe, France and Germany. Now you’re telling us that the IP Forum contains too much US content threads.

My head is spinning, BroonAdjustment. You are always on the cutting edge… :wink: :notworthy:[/quote]

:laughing: :notworthy: Hadn’t thought of that one.

The issue of FS posts could be addressed by similarly creating an FS dedicated Forum (preferably on an entirely different Website with a different operating system and moving his 17 zillion anti-French posts there through a non-functioning hyperlink and auto-delete function :wink: ) but that is another topic.

I think it is a good idea.

Rascal? What do you think? (wenn’s zu schwerig ist, kannst du ja auf deutsch beantworten falls der Herr TM dich von diskrimination akusiert oder so was ahnliches… :wink: )

A poll?

BroonAdjustment (with credit to TMTM) :laughing:

[quote=“joesax”][quote=“BroonAle”]If this were to be put in the Feedback Forum now, there would be very little feedback from IP posters who generally are ‘daily’ posters.[/quote]Why do you think that? New posts in the Feedback Forum come up OK on your “posts since last visit”, don’t they?

And I’m a little confused. You say that there aren’t many posts on non-US related issues because people are reluctant to post these. Then you say that there is a significant body of posts. Which is it?[/quote]

I mean a ‘significant body’ of US-only posts, not the other way round. Hope this clarifies things for you.

BroonAle

I don’t think splitting the forum will do any good.

If non-US threads were popular, they would stay at the top of the thread list anyway.

In addition, as the foremost military, economic, and political power in the world, the US will always get dragged into any discussion.

Keep IP as it is, i say.

Well, there’s one opinion…how about some more.

Perhaps I should be more specific:

What about a US Domestic Politics Forum. It would unclutter the IP Forum and leave space for discussions about erm…Ogoni Land, for example.

Realistically, how many threads come back to the top after disappearing off the first page of the forum?

Not many.

Therefore splitting would present a clearer choice of topics to the browser and ease of navigation.

Unreasonable?

BroonAdjust

There’s about 50 forums already (no, I’m not exaggerating - count them). It’s a wonder newbies can ever find the right place to post something. I really don’t think we should go starting new forums abotu subjects that have nothing to do with Taiwan.

Brian

Well, there’s another opinion.

So how about poll, setting a deadline of a week and making the decision based on a simple majority to a yes or no question?

Reasonable?

BroonBallot

you know, the forum was a lot easier to navigate until you started the trend of posting inflammatory threads to get a rise out of people. now you’ve also got cableguy and fred doing it. no wonder it’s a mess.

Piss off. That’s stupid. FS posted waaaaaay before me. I have not involved myself (much) in any discussion on the now long-in-the-tooth racism/rascal/moderating scraps and anyway, where is the inflammation in posting about Nepal or questioning the clutter in the IP forum that now exists? You evidently rise to anything and have proven here that in this case you are incapable of resisting a personal attack. I may have contributed to some clutter, yes, I admit that but does that preclude me from offering a suggestion as to how it can now be rectified?

NO!

Some of my posts have been inflammatory, yes, contoversial, yes, interesting, sometimes, inviting of response, yes, encouraging debate, yes but what you say here…oh. I remember, you are the one obsessed with trolling and by being so kept the Lynndie England Abortion one going…railing against me has nothing to do do with my suggestion and the apportioning of historical blame is irrelevant.

Trends only become ‘trends’ when there is a willingness to follow one. That’s a freedom of choice issue. So don’t bloody lecture me, you sanctimonious so and so.

BroonAle