# Is Darwinism pseudoscience? **URL:** \ **Category:** Science & Nature\ **Tags:** science\ **Created:** [July 7, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785 "2013-07-07T19:12:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_K](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Benjamin\_K](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Benjamin_K)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/1 "2013-07-07T19:12:20Z")
Is Darwinism pseudoscience _Poll ([view on site](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/1))_ Is Darwinism pseudoscience? What do you think? > [@](#): > > Professor of evolution calls Darwinism 'pseudo science [creation.com/professor-of-evolut … do-science](http://creation.com/professor-of-evolution-calls-darwinism-pseudo-science) ---
**Author:** ![Hokwongwei](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hokwongwei/32/175496_2.png) [@Hokwongwei](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Hokwongwei)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/2 "2013-07-07T20:24:25Z")
I’m sorry to break the news to you, but Pierre-Paul Grassé died almost 30 years ago. If your best argument against a universally accepted scientific principle is a guy who was criticizing it three decades ago, you should really try to find a better one. 30 years ago, you could have claimed the earth wasn’t warming, that major banks were too big to fail, that 1MB of ram is enough for power users. You could have claimed that evolution isn’t a thing. All of these claims look laughably wrong in today’s world. ---
**Author:** ![yuli](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/8dc957/32.png) [@yuli](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/yuli)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 9:31pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/3 "2013-07-07T21:31:26Z")
> [@Benjamin K](#): > > Is Darwinism pseudoscience? What is “pseudoscience”? Have Darwin’s hypotheses been tested according to the scientific method and found untenable? Why do you ask? (Added a few questions to the list to brighten your day - you’re welcome 🙇‍♂️ ) ---
**Author:** ![urodacus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/urodacus/32/69843_2.png) [@urodacus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/urodacus)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 11:17pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/4 "2013-07-07T23:17:23Z")
Of course it’s not pseudoscience. You should go out and actually learn some science, then you’d be able to understand the hundreds of thousands of experiments that do show that Darwin was right. Sure, we’re still learning more about the details, and there are some parts of hereditable information transfer that are not classically Darwinian, but the idea of evolution is incontestable, except by ignorant lunatics. Yes, I am including creationists in that blanket statement. ---
**Author:** ![shiadoa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shiadoa/32/10295_2.png) [@shiadoa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/shiadoa)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/5 "2013-07-08T04:03:07Z")
> [@urodacus](#): > > Of course it’s not pseudoscience. You should go out and actually learn some science, then you’d be able to understand the hundreds of thousands of experiments that do show that Darwin was right. Sure, we’re still learning more about the details, and there are some parts of hereditable information transfer that are not classically Darwinian, but the idea of evolution is incontestable, except by ignorant lunatics. Yes, I am including creationists in that blanket statement. Absolutely !! I would have deemed Pope John Pauls recent “Sainthood” worthy,had he been willing to explain that fact to his followers. :popcorn: That would have been a real miracle. ---
**Author:** ![TexMex](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/texmex/32/175814_2.png) [@TexMex](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/TexMex)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/6 "2013-07-08T04:06:49Z")
Pseudo science? It might be a fancy name for something that is only a theory. Personally I like better mutation and natural selection than adaptation. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/7 "2013-07-08T04:11:48Z")
> [@Hokwongwei](#): > > 30 years ago… You could have claimed that evolution isn’t a thing. Not really. More like 100? ---
**Author:** ![shiadoa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shiadoa/32/10295_2.png) [@shiadoa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/shiadoa)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/8 "2013-07-08T04:19:24Z")
> [@Hokwongwei](#): > > I’m sorry to break the news to you, but Pierre-Paul Grassé died almost 30 years ago. If your best argument against a universally accepted scientific principle is a guy who was criticizing it three decades ago, you should really try to find a better one. > > 30 years ago, you could have claimed the earth wasn’t warming, that major banks were too big to fail, that 1MB of ram is enough for power users. You could have claimed that evolution isn’t a thing. All of these claims look laughably wrong in today’s world. HK…you mean 1Mb of ram isn’t enough? Earth Warming up ? What did I miss.? :popcorn: ---
**Author:** ![Novaspes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Novaspes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Novaspes)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/9 "2013-07-08T05:39:01Z")
BenjaminK is back!! 😃 Fat laughter for everyone will ensue! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Jellyfish](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/aca169/32.png) [@Dr\_Jellyfish](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Jellyfish)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 7:13am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/10 "2013-07-08T07:13:08Z")
Darwinism is good. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Jellyfish](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/aca169/32.png) [@Dr\_Jellyfish](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Jellyfish)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/11 "2013-07-08T07:25:03Z")
I’ve forgotten how the next bit is supposed to go, something like this: If Darwinism isn’t good, then why is it so good? Do you think you’re better than Darwinism? ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 8:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/12 "2013-07-08T08:29:21Z")
why call it Darwinism? what’s wrong with just calling it evolution or natural selection? ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_McCoy](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_mccoy/32/175310_2.png) [@Dr\_McCoy](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_McCoy)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/13 "2013-07-08T09:10:13Z")
> [@](#): > > Falun Gong works this way: It fundamentally changes the molecular composition of the human body, storing the gathered high-energy matter in each cell and ultimately allowing this high-energy matter to replace the cellular components. Metabolism will no longer occur. A person thus transcends the five elements, having turned his or her body into one composed of substances from other dimensions. This person will be young forever, as he or she is no longer restrained by our space-time. How’s that for psuedo-science? ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_K](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Benjamin\_K](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Benjamin_K)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/14 "2013-07-08T09:25:03Z")
[quote=“Hokwongwei”]I’m sorry to break the news to you, but Pierre-Paul Grassé died almost 30 years ago. If your best argument against a universally accepted scientific principle is a guy who was criticizing it three decades ago, you should really try to find a better one. 30 years ago, you could have claimed the earth wasn’t warming, that major banks were too big to fail, that 1MB of ram is enough for power users. You could have claimed that evolution isn’t a thing. All of these claims look laughably wrong in today’s world.[/quote] When did Darwin create his theory? Isn’t it much earlier than this scientist? ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_K](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Benjamin\_K](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Benjamin_K)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/15 "2013-07-08T09:27:47Z")
> [@yuli](#): > > [quote=“Benjamin K”]Is Darwinism pseudoscience? What is “pseudoscience”? Have Darwin’s hypotheses been tested according to the scientific method and found untenable? Why do you ask? (Added a few questions to the list to brighten your day - you’re welcome 🙇‍♂️ )[/quote] I think you can read here: Conclusion: We’re created, not evolved! [creation.com/created-or-evolved](http://creation.com/created-or-evolved) ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_K](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Benjamin\_K](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Benjamin_K)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/16 "2013-07-08T09:33:04Z")
> [@urodacus](#): > > then you’d be able to understand the hundreds of thousands of experiments that do show that Darwin was right. can you give a concrete evidence which can show us how sth became a hen? ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_K](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Benjamin\_K](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Benjamin_K)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:36am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/17 "2013-07-08T09:36:17Z")
[quote=“TexMex”]Pseudo science? It might be a fancy name for something that is only a theory. Personally I like better mutation and natural selection than adaptation.[/quote] Darwinism is only a wrong theory. It does not matter which you prefer, this is science. ---
**Author:** ![Benjamin\_K](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/58f4c7/32.png) [@Benjamin\_K](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Benjamin_K)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/18 "2013-07-08T09:37:09Z")
[quote=“Tempo Gain”][quote=“Hokwongwei”]] 30 years ago… You could have claimed that evolution isn’t a thing. [/quote] Not really. More like 100?[/quote] Younger than Darwin. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/19 "2013-07-08T09:38:50Z")
[quote=“Benjamin K”] Conclusion: We’re created, not evolved! [creation.com/created-or-evolved](http://creation.com/created-or-evolved)[/quote] That’s not much of a conclusion. To say “wow things are really complex, there must have been a creator” is facilely simple and plainly unscientific. Researchers are constantly investigating evolution and uncovering evidence to show that it does actually occur. They have developed a great deal of such evidence, and the theory of evolution has become a convincing one. This is science. Complex structures aren’t unaccounted for under the theory of evolution either. The theory doesn’t attempt to clear up whether there ever was a creator of the universe. On the other hand, if you want to assert that such a creator exists, you’ll have to come up with some evidence to that effect, otherwise you really haven’t said anything at all. If you want to claim that life is static and never changes that would be field for research I suppose, but not a very promising one I think. ---
**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 9:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785/20 "2013-07-08T09:46:14Z")
[quote=“Benjamin K”] I think you can read here: Conclusion: We’re created, not evolved! [creation.com/created-or-evolved](http://creation.com/created-or-evolved)[/quote] great example of pseudoscience :bravo: [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/is-darwinism-pseudoscience/78785.md?page=2)