Is it possible to prove a student essay is AI?

Could you set a benchmark with in class writing say 4 times a semester and grade in comparison to the benchmarks? I can think of several problems, but just a thought.

Make them do it on a shared document on google docs.

You will be able to see what they write in realtime.

At least you will be able to see the different versions and their progress.

Maybe the fact that you can drop in at anytime will be enough to discourage it.

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You can also check the version history. If it’s chat gpt you can see huge walls of text just pasted in instead of being written and edited

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I think this is how a lot of teachers have been doing things, except that clever students will just have two windows open and type what they see on the GPT window into their Google doc.

If they’re at least doing that then they’re reading the responses from chat gpt which means at the very least theymight be learning something.

Most students who cheat this way don’t care at all. They don’t even read what the output says and then learn absolutely nothing.

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Flunk their a&&es.

Sorry was that too direct? :grin:

Guy

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Not as much of an option as it used to be, frustratingly. I’d fail myself into courses too small to run next semester, and if enough of my coworkers did this, we probably wouldn’t have a school left.

Yes, this has raised the ambient level of existential angst.

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I’ve gotten pushback over a couple attempted failings. Polite phone calls from the chair explaining why a certain student needs to pass. Enrollment is in dire straits. They’re accepting students they normally wouldn’t, and you have to really shit the bed nowadays to fail. The grades are calculated in such a way that you could literally no-show for a midterm and get a zero, and as long as you come back and do okay on the final you’ll sneak through.

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In the future they’ll just use ai to do the teaching…

In the space of a few days, I had two different Taiwanese teachers suggest a formula of taking the square root of the student’s score, and multiplying by ten as a way to scale. So if they’ve got 36% originally, their new score is 60%; if they’re at 81, they’re now at 90%.

I get the sense this used to be a joke but is now becoming a real thing.

(EDIT: once this was shown to me, the math seems blindingly obvious, so I suspect this scaling “trick” has been around forever - but I don’t think I’d heard about it until a couple of weeks ago.)