Is Japan next?

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Ren Hou was born to a Taiwanese father and Japanese mother, and is a naturalized Japanese citizen, but she has been called Taiwan’s native daughter nevertheless. She is known as Lien Fang (蓮舫) to most people in Taiwan, a shortened version of her Mandarin Chinese name Hsieh Lien-fang (謝蓮舫).

It is an indication of Ren Hou’s status in Taiwan that she was ushered to sit next to Vice President Annette Lu (呂秀蓮) when she arrived yesterday at the Democratic Pacific Assembly. Lu had earlier expressed her anticipation to meet with Ren Hou.


Obviously, to counter PRC taking over Korea, ROC is planning to take over Japan via a 5th column led by Ren Hou.

Wow, she must have low status indeed–what did she do to deserve that? 8)

[quote=“ac_dropout”]Obviously, to counter PRC taking over Korea, ROC is planning to take over Japan via a 5th column led by Ren Hou.[/quote]I guess it takes a Fifth Column to know a Fifth Column huh AC_FIFTH COLUMN_DROPOUT!? YOU and your KMT/PFP/PRC alliance are the Fifth Column here in Taiwan AC, even though you are not actually here but in the US, you fricken hypocrite! If you want Taiwan to become part of China so bad, give up your US passport for a PRC one! You wouldn’t would you?! So why ask Taiwan to do that?

Fifth Column in Japan!!! Typical AC speak…actually Japan is already united in their belief that Taiwan is an independant nation, there is no need for a “fifth column” to change their thinking, they just need the courage to say it out loud and tell those Commie pukes in the PRC to go to hell! By the way, a Fifth Column is supposed to be Clandestine, but Ren Hou is not clandestine in her support for Taiwan. Unlike the fake KMT/PFP who pretend to work for the better of Taiwan, when in fact…

This topic is so much of a non-topic, I may just delete the whole thing. What do you think?

Yes Wolf, Please delete this topic. Kind of a non-issue, especially after today’s news where President Chen embraces Ren Hou and says she is Taiwan’s voice in Japan.

So true or false, Taiwan has manipulated Ren Hou Taiwan ethnicity to influence Japan democratic government in our favor. Does she not have the possibility of being our fifth column in Japan if her political career takes off in the future.

Hey Stupid, a Fifth Column is supposed to be clandestine, not open and she was not manipulated. Finally it is up to the Japanese if they want to believe the truth about Taiwan being a self ruled independent nation with democratically elected leaders and human rights, or believe the PRC that Taiwan is part of the Communist PRC and must be forced at gun point to become part of a Communist regime with NO political freedoms!

You mean it is not like the Japanese ever needed to convince any Taiwanese at gun point to do anything during modern history, right?

I’m just glad that the Japanese are open minded to an ethnically mixed politician. Could you believe the scandal in Taiwan if a politician was an WSR/BSR mix, let alone a Japanese/Taiwanese mix.

Are you trying to say that since the Japanese used force on Taiwan that means it is OK for the PRC to use force on Taiwan as well? Strange logic. By the reasoning can we also say that since Japan raped woman in Nanjing during their invasion that it will be OK if the USA or Taiwan does the same thing when they liberate China from the Communists?

[quote=“ac_dropout”]I’m just glad that the Japanese are open minded to an ethnically mixed politician. Could you believe the scandal in Taiwan if a politician was an WSR/BSR mix, let alone a Japanese/Taiwanese mix. [/quote] Oh so you are saying that Taiwanese and the Chinese that came here after 1949 are different ethnicities and not Chinese? That’s a relief, makes it easier their case or being a totally separate country. By the way, what are you actually trying to say, because I do not follow you here. Are you saying that because Ren Hou is half Taiwanese that the Japanese will not tkae her seriously. If that is so, then why is it that you a Pro-Commie PRC propagandist is so concerned with all of this. You got nothing to worry about right?

Hobart,

As of right now, PRC has never subjugated Taiwan to become a colony nor legislate the legal raping of any ROC citizen.

Japan on the other hand has subjugated Taiwanese by gunpoint and have raped Taiwanese individuals. Yet the people of Taiwan have great admiration for Japan.

My ironic Machiavellian conclusion should be intuitive by now.

I personally believe 98% of the people of Taiwan are Han Chinese ethnicity, whether Hakka, Hoklo, or just the general where

No the PRC has never subjugated Taiwanese by gunpoint and raped Taiwanese, (but the Chinese KMT have) The PRC can only do that to their own citizens, so they haven’t had the chance to harm Taiwan. They are hoping they get the chance.

I guess the Chinese KMT were more brutal than the Japanese, and anyway, who wants to be a Communist?

[quote=“ac_dropout”]My ironic Machiavellian conclusion should be intuitive by now. I personally believe 98% of the people of Taiwan are Han Chinese ethnicity, whether Hakka, Hoklo, or just the general where

[quote=“ac_dropout”]Hobart,

As of right now, PRC has never subjugated Taiwan to become a colony nor legislate the legal raping of any ROC citizen.

Japan on the other hand has subjugated Taiwanese by gunpoint and have raped Taiwanese individuals. Yet the people of Taiwan have great admiration for Japan.

My ironic Machiavellian conclusion should be intuitive by now.
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post-imperial japan has never has never subjugated Taiwan to become a colony nor legislate the legal raping of any ROC citizen.

china subjugated taiwan to become a colony and sent many soldiers who raped taiwanese women. japan, at one point did the same.

can you at least make a coherent and logically sound argument?

Flipper,

Which China are you referring to? Imperial China, ROChina, or PRChina.

I don’t believe there were any sanctioned raping of Taiwanese women under the ROC similar to Japanese comfort women system.
vikingphoenix.com/public/JapanIn … wcomfw.htm

I don’t believe any PRC military exercise ever made it to Taiwan Island.

I think you need to look at my logical statement more closely.

PRC has never subjugated Taiwan to become a colony nor legislate the legal raping of any ROC citizen

so you pick one government of china and compare it to all japanese governments throughout history. THAT is where you are making a logically inconsistent argument. prc never ruled taiwan as a colony? well, neither has constitutional japan. what’s your point? i’m wondering if you use logical fallacies in your arguments on purpose or if you really just have no idea how to form a logically consistent argument.

[quote=“ac_dropout”]My ironic Machiavellian conclusion should be intuitive by now.
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your conclusion is based on the syllogistic fallacy of illicit major.

once again, dropout uses a logical fallacy. not that we should be surprised…

So the USA written constitution impose on Japan absolves the Japanese of all WWII actions. They still retain their emperor, so there are still some connections to imperial Japan.

Is this the logic you

so did the formation of the prc absolve china of all it’s past actions regarding the subjugation of taiwan as a colony?

you go out of your way to specify post-ww2 china and compare it to ww2 japan. i guess it’s not really a logical fallacy as much as it is intellectual dishonesty.

[quote]I don’t believe there were any sanctioned raping of Taiwanese women under the ROC similar to Japanese comfort women system.
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So you haven’t heard of the ROC ‘comfort women’ that used to be stationed on Jinmen and Mazu?

Flipper,

Okay I admit it I spin the facts for a pro-unification position. But don’t tell anyone on Forumosa, they think I’m neutral.

Bu Lai En,

Not really. The only ones I heard about that comes close are the official prostitutes in the ROC military, used for draftees and lifers to relieve themselves.

Ohhhhh…Jinmen and Mazu…I get it. Is that what they are called now.