i dont think any foreign mission can be sovergeign land in anywhere. doesn’t a sovereign land in a foreign country mean an enclave?
i guess you mean if any embassy bought a land in taiwan.
i dont think any foreign mission can be sovergeign land in anywhere. doesn’t a sovereign land in a foreign country mean an enclave?
i guess you mean if any embassy bought a land in taiwan.
Sorry, was wondering both and probably not being terribly clear with my question.
Yes, wondering if any embassy actually is considered the territory of the missions nation.
In Taiwan, the high rise places that are bought (usually just a room/floor/section), are they treated any different than say a regular condo where everyone owns a percentage of the entirety? Or do they actually have rights over the land their building sits on top of? For security reasons it seems silly to rent a spot in a building with next to zero control over it’s real estate. but then many embassies here are just trade promotion units and it likely isnt as important.
Yes, wondering if any embassy actually is considered the territory of the missions nation
It’s not. It’s a myth. They have extraterritoriality, IE an exemption from most or all local laws. But not considered sovereign land.
Consulates do not have extraterritoriality.
What is Extraterritoriality? Extraterritoriality is a legal situation in which one is exempted from the jurisdiction of the law of the locality where one is situated.
if any embassy actually is considered the territory of the missions nation.
In The Simpsons episode ‘Bart vs Australia’, the eponymous family visits the Great Southern Land after Bart unintentionally causes a diplomatic incident. When leaving the American embassy in Canberra, a marine stationed there informs them that the...
Article 22 of the VCDR may be the main source of confusion as to whether embassies are foreign territory. Article 22(1) provides that the premises of an embassy are inviolable : ‘The agents of the receiving state may not enter them, except with the consent of the head of the mission.’ The receiving state is under a duty to enforce this inviolability, and everything within the premises of the embassy is immune from search or other interferences.
Under article 9 of the VCDR a receiving state is entitled to require the recall of diplomats (that is, to expel diplomats) at any time and without giving reasons, something which would not be possible if the embassy was the territory of the sending state because the diplomat would already be outside the receiving state.
not an embassy but a base actually is the territory of the missions nation
Akrotiri and Dhekelia (/ˌækroʊˈtɪəri ənd diˈkeɪliə/), officially the Sovereign Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia (SBA),[a] is a British Overseas Territory on the island of Cyprus. The areas, which include British military bases and installations formerly part of the Crown colony of Cyprus, were retained by the British under the 1960 treaty of independence signed by the United Kingdom, Greece, Turkey and representatives from the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities. The territory serves an i...
a base that the missions nation has complete authority but no ultimate sovereignty
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The principle of extraterritoriality has been abandoned in international law and replaced by the concept of inviolability.
In international law, extraterritoriality is the state of being exempted from the jurisdiction of local law, usually as the result of diplomatic negotiations. Historically, this primarily applied to individuals, as jurisdiction was usually claimed on peoples rather than on lands. Extraterritoriality can also be partly applied to physical places, such as the immunity granted to diplomatic missions, military bases of foreign countries, or offices of the United Nations. The three most common cas...
Current examplesEdit
Contrary to popular belief, diplomatic missions do not generally enjoy full extraterritorial status and are not sovereign territory of the represented state.[56]
Examples of countries which have ceded some control over their territory (for example, the right to enter at will for law enforcement purposes) without ceding sovereignty are listed.
Cheers guys, that helps clear it up for me ![]()
Probably was the military related things I was thinking about and confusing.
hahaha! I am very ignorant about many things. I do hope that, at least, my dumb questions are not actually founded on cartoons!
I have heard this all my life in canada and the us, though (not here so much). but it’s always a passive conversation and never really in my range of lifestyle interests to care that much about. not that that’s a good excuse, just never cared. now I care more, as a grown ass man sounding like friggen homer simpson ![]()
Damn…