I removed the link because I thought what if Aristotle came accross it, heâd start plastering the whole thing all over the web. That is not what I wanted. I use the site but I object to many things there esp the blacklist, I have heard too many stories of unjustifiable blacklistings.
I would give you the link by PM though. In that respect I agree with our mystery PM writer and removed the link, but hey, it is still there amoungst all the links on the site that I posted Just to show everyone just how public the site is.
If I were illegal and looking for a part time job I wouldnât want someone understanding, after checking my name, that I didnât have any legal documentation for teaching in Taiwan or perhaps that I am miles away from the place that has issued my ARC.
Perhaps I wouldnât want everone to know where I am and who I really work for either.
Do the MOE actually have one though. I thought they donât. Then someone claimed they actually do. I still doubt it unless I see the evidence.
What do you actually fear that someone like Aristotle might do with such a list? The only people I can see causing harm with the list would be employers (by refusing to employ or firing someone who might be on the list but who have actually done nothing wrong other than piss off a bad employer). But itâs the teachers, not the employers who lack the Chinese skills to access these lists.
If you are on the list that I first posted the MOE wonât touch you. Try processing an application, it wonât go through. So, the MOE does use this resource. It doesnât have MOE stamped all over it but they are connected.
I knew someone before in the MOE that could get your name off that list in a snap, sadly, he is no longer with the MOE, he moved on to greener pastures.
What we have, I believe is the government, MOE, hiding behind an association. All the documentation comes off the MOE files. Names, nationalities, etc.
It makes for some very interesting reading when you research your competition If I was a bad egg I probably wouldnât have any competition anymore, however, you may find me in a pine box afterwards. So, Iâd never use the information, itâs more a âyou know that I know and I know that you know kind of thingâ.
Shite⌠a black Benz has just pulled up ⌠theyâve been watching.
If an applicant has all the necessary documentation and qualifications for a work permit, on what legal grounds can the MOE deny her one?
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Itâs private information, names (full names), nationalities, and locations, school addresses etc. Mental xiao jies could use this list to stalk us all.
The list has people on it that do deserve to be on it and many that donât, I heard of a few and supplied information to try and help them off the list or at least get another job. Bosses lie.
You are giving everyone with a computer details that you may not want to share with others. There is no way to be removed from the directory of teachers list, as far as I know.
If you have not completed your contract then the MOE in that area will refuse to give you another permit because you didnât meet your legal obligation of a one year contract. Or so they say.
[quote]1) Itâs private information, names (full names), nationalities, and locations, school addresses etc. Mental xiao jies could use this list to stalk us all.
The list has people on it that do deserve to be on it and many that donât, I heard of a few and supplied information to try and help them off the list or at least get another job. Bosses lie.
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The list is already on the net, whatsmore itâs linked there from Chinese language sites. Putting it on an English language site isnât goingto make it more accessible to psycho xiaojies. Iâm talking about the blacklist I posted above btw not the list of all teachers, but the same would apply ot that.
Seems pretty flimsy to me. If the contract was breached by the employer, or the employee was filed, or the employee paid thge penalty for early termination of the contract then theyâve performed their legal obligation. You could probably file an administrative appeal.
You could file an admin appeal but after your ARC is chopped up you have 7 days to leave the country. How many teachers can get an appeal organised in that time ⌠toooooo late. That is where the employers feel that they have it won.
They cant touch me cause Iâm illegal working. Heh. You canât find me on any of those lists! Just use a fake name and cash over the table. god I love taiwan
I do not agree that posting this link here can do any more harm than is currently being done by its publication to âthose in the knowâ in the buxiban industry whose only interest is perpetuation the disgraceful and unlawful way in which buxiban teachers are taken advantage of. (cue violins) Is it any wonder the MoE and the police arenât interested in persuing the criminal libel of the person in the Case of the Forged Letter ?
The address (163.18.250.34) of the server on which this information is posted turns out to be on (surprise surprise):
inetnum: 163.18.0.0 - 163.18.255.255
netname: TANET
descr: Taiwan Academic Network
descr: Ministry of Education computer Center
descr: 12F, No 106, Sec. 2, Heping E. Rd., Taipei