[quote]Anyway, back to Rapeman. Okay, this guy is what ya might call a “rapist for hire”, a “rape contractor”, he’s the H.R. Block, the Fed Ex of rape. You might see him on a late night infomercial in Japan: “Hi, I’m Ying Tso Mao, and I’ll rape any whore for just 500 yen!” Like Clark Kent, he acts like a neurotic geek by day, and like Batman, lurks in the urban shadows at night in a black costume (actually it’s nothing more than fancy leather biker garb). Rapeman restrains selected women with a pair of spring powered handcuffs before delivering “the service”. His duties become a bit complicated when, for $5,000, he rapes the wife of a well-liked politician running in a massive Japanese election and finds himself entangled in a mob related government scandal. To avenge the woman he raped (huh?) and his savagely beaten manager, Rapeman joins forces with a sneaky female photographer to infiltrate one of the crooked candidate’s secret backroom appointments with a high level crime boss. The guy’s presidency is terminated, his career ruined, just seconds before election when a tape of the meeting is played on the P.A. system. Meanwhile, Rapeman violates his wife in the next room. The bad guys are brought down and our hero returns to the business of meat-shank hits.
I suppose that in an outwardly chauvinistic, morally vacant sense, the idea that someone would have either the cajones or the ignorance to make a film that portrays the act of rape as justifiable, sexy, or as funny as someone slipping on a banana peel, and then to portray a victim as grateful ("Oooooh, Rapeman!) is somewhat amusing to me. Although it’s extremely dumb and despite how it represents the sexual politics of Japanese people, Rapeman did make me laugh. I’m just glad it wasn’t made here.
Being Kidnapped and Raped is a common fantasy for young Japanese women. If you ever watch any Japanese porn there is a common theme of forcing the woman, who in turn doesnt seem to be enjoying herself (Itai, itai = It hurts it hurts) . After the money shot the man will often apologise.
Yes, I too don’t understand the Japanese, even after three years there.
[quote=“patterson”]Being Kidnapped and Raped is a common fantasy for young Japanese women. If you ever watch any Japanese porn there is a common theme of forcing the woman, who in turn doesnt seem to be enjoying herself (Itai, itai = It hurts it hurts) . After the money shot the man will often apologise.
Yes, I too don’t understand the Japanese, even after three years there.[/quote]
The description of pain is obviously pornographic, an idea of the director’s, and, of course, totally unnecessary. Understand it for its effect - on males - only.
That said, in my experience, some version of “rape fantasy” is common to all females, of any culture.
I’m not sure why, and my guesses
are often deemed incorrect.
I keep them 'round anyway.
I don’t if any of you heard about this but a few years back in the states there was a report on the news about some adult bookstores selling rape videos from Japan. They showed part of the tapes on the news which, the one I saw, had a young girl in a van and she was terrified. The newscaster said that the girl was raped, and that in Japan these tapes were quite common and starting to become more common in the states.
Well, they confronted one bookstore clerk where the tape had been sold but, of course, he denied selling that tape or any others like it.
Very, very disturbing.
[quote]Man Pleads Guilty in Mistaken ‘Rape Fantasy’
Thu Apr 1, 7:21 AM ET
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A California man has pleaded guilty to residential burglary after he set up a meeting with a woman on a rape fantasy Internet chat page, but instead broke into a different woman’s apartment.
Michael Todd Howard, 35, pleaded guilty in a court in San Diego on Tuesday in return for an expected sentence of one year in jail and probation, prosecutors said.
According to court documents, last September, Howard broke into the home of a woman with whom he thought he had set up an encounter on what was described as a “rape fantasy” chat site. After he entered the wrong apartment, he hit and struggled with the 25-year-old woman inside, who told law enforcement officials she thought she was going to be killed.
The victim stopped the attack by yelling and attacking Howard’s testicles. Howard then asked for the name the victim used in the chat room and she responded by saying she had never visited a chat room and did not have a personal computer.
As a part of the plea deal, prosecutors dropped charges of intent to commit rape, false imprisonment and possession of illegal drugs. Howard will be sentenced next month. [/quote]
Don’t you mean, ‘Kidnapping and raping womoen is a common fantasy for young Japanese men?’ That would make more sense. Japanese men probably wish girls would have that fantasy.
Or: The girl resists at first, succumbs and then ends up liking it - someone told once me.
It’s definitely not just a male thing.
I have never gone so far as to act out a rape scenario with a guy, but often use it as a fantasy while having sex.
It’s the one thing that can keep me awake when I start getting bored.
I also like to watch Japanese anime rape porn, but have no interest in seeing real people in porn.
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Or: The girl resists at first, succumbs and then ends up liking it - someone told once me. [/quote]
That’s not particular to the Japanese. The rape that turns into a seduction fantasy is a pretty universal male fantasy that most men have, according to the psychologists.
[quote]Why do you find the "Japanese anime… porn"interesting but you don’t have an “interest in seeing real people in porn?”
I’m just curious.[/quote]
Firstly, Japanese anime is real enough to satisfy without the danger that somebody was actually raped just to make the film.
Secondly, most porn actors are so bad that you end up laughing more than anything else. (I went to a hotel with a guy a few weeks ago, and we ended up watching porn…I laughed so much that he changed the channel to HBO!)
And then, most importantly, while I like seeing women getting raped, I am more interested in seeing men…and you get more of that in anime (or maybe I’m just looking in the wrong places)…I also like some torture images that are not so easy to copy using real people (again, without the danger that the blood and stuff are actually real and the person didn’t give his consent).
Well I would say that it’s a common fantasy for both males and females in Japan.
I have heard from a number of Japanese girls that they have fantasised about being raped. I don’t think their perception of it is the same as the Western perception. YES it is sex against your will. But if you are kinda hoping it will happen anyway, and you are envisioning it to be a not altogether horrible experience, then it gets morally downgraded. I DONT AGREE WITH THIS VIEWPOINT, but this is the way it has been explained to me.
Sex in Japan is not something you or I can really understand. Its so much more than the porn films and the anime, which we are privvy to. Its ingrained in the way they live, and how they behave towards each other.
If you ever read historical pillow books from fuedal Japan you will find that sex was thought of as altogther much more permissive. Homosexuality in Japan has a long and glorious past too. Especially amongst monks! Much more open that we in the West have ever allowed ourselves to be, so I believe.
They are, however, narrow minded little bleeders when it comes to working with them!
The rape fantasy isn’t the only “fetish” that I’ve found revolting in anime, truth be told. I think one that might even disgust me more is the whole “tentacle” thing you see in a lot of hentai. Yuck. F-ing disgusting!
Has anybody mentioned the “used schoolgirl underwear vending machines in the subway” phenonenon? Hey, I’m as permissive as the next guy (sure, why not, if it means they don’t have to do as much laundry) but you have to admit, this is pretty warped.
Rape fantasies (for men or women) I can understand–it’s not real rape, after all. Rape fantasies in which the rapist wears a superhero mask, that I don’t get. (Well, Catwoman was pretty hot.)
Anybody heard of the comic book hero “The Punisher”? Basically the same as Batman, he’s got a movie coming out. Anyway, they wanted to make a manga version. You know what they changed him to? A dominatrix who spanks bad little yakuza guys. I am not kidding.
[quote=“Screaming Jesus”]Has anybody mentioned the “used schoolgirl underwear vending machines in the subway” phenonenon? Hey, I’m as permissive as the next guy (sure, why not, if it means they don’t have to do as much laundry) but you have to admit, this is pretty warped.quote=“Screaming Jesus”]
Today I visited the Living in Japan discussion that Spack gave on this site. They have pics of those vending machines. Very strange that anyone would want to buy such things.
They were also having a discussion there about videos which show men getting their balls kicked by girls. They offered a site to visit to see it but I didn’t visit it.
True : mdn.mainichi.co.jp/waiwai/0209/0 … akeri.html
Very interesting discussion forum about living in Japan.
Harvey Kitel’s character said it best in the movie Rising Sun, when he described the Japanese as “world class perverts”. The prim and properness of public life is such a bizarre contrast to the underworld of sexuality there.
It’s not that the Japanese men are perverts. It’s just that being raised primarily by their mothers and absent at work fathers, and being mama boys for a longer time than most other countries, a part of Japanese culture one guesses, many Japanese men never mature beyond the age of 13. A Swedish pschiatrist wrote a book about this once, and for the most part, it’s a good way of understanding the Japanese psyche, especially in relationship to sex and porn. Other than that, they’re nice blokes, too. Just remember the next time you watch a Japanese-made AV video: these are 13 year old boys who made this movie!
That’s all there is to it. Simple.
As for Japanese women, the Swedish doctor didn’t study them, but he did say that they mature in normal ways as women in other cultures do. Just the men get stuck at 13. Something to do with “mommy.”
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