Three purple hearts and two bronze stars in four months. If Kerry’s stories about himself are true…
The Dems haven’t nominated John Kerry for President.
They’ve nominated…
John “Rambo” Kerry
C’mon, folks. Aren’t you the least bit interested in the truth?
Pretty low.
The Magnificent Tigerman:
Is it true that Kerry nominated himself for some of these prizes?
I heard he used to have homosexual sex with Ho Chi Men. Is that true?
No that was Dick Rambone
No that was McCain. My bad.
Nothing “low” about it.
And if you have ever questioned Bush’s military record, then your comment above is not only “low”, but hypocritical as well.
Let’s just hope they are not throwaway answers akin to throwaway medals.[/quote]
Let me see if I understand all this.
All those “Bush was AWOL” and “Bush Lied” threads are perfectly acceptable… but, a thread questioning Kerry’s military service and his honesty is not at all acceptable… :s
Why? Is Kerry [removed by moderator] above questioning?
Hey Richardm,
Before you accuse me, take a look at what John “Rambo” Kerry himself stated:
Now, never mind that John “Rambo” Kerry’s above statement has been proved a lie… that’s another issue. If John “Rambo” Kerry can compare himself with movie war heroes, why is it “low” for me to compare him with movie war heroes?
[quote]And that’s not the only issue that reporters are curiously incurious about. At least one of Kerry’s Purple Hearts has been challenged by his unit’s medical officer, who notes that the wound was barely visible and was treated with a Band-Aid.
Some questions should also be asked about his Silver Star: Should shooting a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back - as justifiable as it was as an act of war - be worthy of the nation’s third-highest award for courage?
To those of you who say such questions are unseemly, consider that John Kerry’s principal claim on the presidency is that he served four months and 11 days in Vietnam. OK, fine. Let’s examine the records - all the records, which, unlike Bush and contrary to popular perception, Kerry has not released - and have a debate. We would be if it were George W. Bush. The media would see to it.[/quote]
Indeed!
Why is John “Rambo” Kerry unwilling to disclose the records of his war heroism? What is he afraid of?
A Band-Aid! A freaking Band-Aid???
I can’t see the forest for the sleaze. I guess it’s okay to spread unsubstantiated rumors about someone who served the US in wartime.
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/4933842.html
(This is a subscription story: Records detail Kerry’s war recollections by
Maria L. La Ganga and Stephen Braun, Los Angeles Times)
They are both fucking arseholes and neither one has a pair of nuts big enough to go into battle and it saddens me that:
A: These are the only realistic choices to run your country and
B: you even think that they actually run your country anyway
C: you all spend an awful ammount of time bickering over it in a kind of tribal way without either side conceding anything
D: That I will be told to but out becasue I’m not American
My first IP post
Unsubstantiated? The accusations include eye-witness accounts. They may be wrong or lying, but you can’t dismiss them as unsubstantiated.
They are certainly no less so than the accusations against Bush, which forced the publication of his army record.
I don’t see why Kerry’s record should be treated differently.
The truth is, of course, that Dems and Reps are playing politics. The Dems thought this issue was a safe bet for them decorated hero vs national guard deserter. But what they demanded of Bush, it is also fair for the Reps to demand of kerry.
Sauce for the Goose, what?
Excuse me? Bush never served in the army.
Sure it’s fair that you question Kerry’s record, but drawing ‘unsubstantiated’ conclusions before you check the facts or truth only because you’re a partisan, isn’t fair.
Trial without a jury.
Bush was a wimp. Kerry wasn’t. We are wimps. Kerry wasn’t.
Unsubstantiated? :s
Guess I had better take a gander at this, what?
[quote=“Alien”][quote=“imyourbiggestfan”]
They are certainly no less so than the accusations against Bush, which forced the publication of his army record.
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Excuse me? Bush never served in the army.[/quote]
Where’s Traveller to complain about semantics? Air national Guard. So what? You know what IYBF meant.
And if that isn’t the pot calling the kettle “black”… then I don’t know what is. 
Anyway, how can we check the facts if Kerry will not release his military record?
Well, national Guard… that’s still honourable, is it not?
Indeed it is not. I see the accusations of Kerry having "lied’ as unproven but worthy of investigation. Particularly given the continued claim that Bush was AWOL (another such titled thread has popped up) despite no evidence to support this.
And you must accept that Mr T did not drawn “‘unsubstantiated’ conclusions” but rather quoted Kerry’s own admissions of involvement in acts contrary to the Geneva conventions.
I think it is therefore fair game for the Reps to demand that kerry publish his records, as Bush was asked to do.
Normally, yes, but someone in government stepped in on behalf of Bush and he leapfrogged more than 18-months-worth of applicants for the TANG position he landed.
Not especially honorable, imo, when your family’s connections yield special treatment in time of war - and especially when compared with the fact the Kerry volunteered for active duty, with the US Navy, in Vietnam.
Nonsense. The Bush administration has built a cottage industry sliming Vietnam veterans who stand in their way. For instance, they slimed John McCain and Max Cleland, both Vietnam veterans, for political purposes.
The only thing that’s ‘fair’ here is to totally ignore this entirely predictable attack on another Vietnam vet, John Kerry. After the Cleland smear, you’re a fool to believe anything - in fact, to entertain for even a second - the Bushies have to say about people who are both political enemies and Vietnam veterans.
BTW, John McCain has called on Bush to denounce the slime attack on Kerry. Bush declined to do so. In addition, a liberal advocacy group, moveon.org, has launched a similarly slimey attack on Bush’s alleged AWOL status during his TANG service. McCain demanded Kerry denouce moveon’s slime attack on Bush, and yesterday Kerry did so.
Fair game, my ass.
flike, your rant had nothing to do with iybf’s suggestion that kerry should publish his records. it’s like you went off on your anti-bush tangent and totally ignored the point iybf was trying to make. he did NOT say it was fair game to trash everything kerry did. he said it was fair game to ask that he release his records.