[quote=“ceevee369”] Thanks… Fear was that it would go towards the 20.000 NT per 2 months which is not.
That is the price of comfort we paid in Europe for heaving a nice temperature , but as mentionned by mingshah, even those heaters we use now do not give a comfortable temperature in the (too) big houz Still feels like a fridge indeed
Are we sure it is 4 NT per KWH, as I found a 7 NT per KWH in a previous post which would result in a 20K bill per 2 months [/quote]
Didn’t we warn you … even before you arrived in Taiwan we’ve told you … when you’re on an expat contract people tend to rent to their max. budget … big house, garden etc … but in winter … cold, cold, cold … in summer hot, hot, hot … so need for aircon (expensive) heating (expensive)
You should have rented one of those expat houses with heated floors …
Or do as me, in winter I keep warm behind my stoves and in front of my ovens … and people pay me for it …
I just have the experience from Austria where we were heating with this wooden fired ovens. Our son was never really trying to touch them as you feel the heat which comes from them before you acutally touch them. Some kids are naughtier and they try to find out about this stuff even when they are told to not touch. Usually you go through this one time than they never touch again. (cruel I know, but that’s life and some people seem to be like this their whole life
So I have some questions regarding this kero heaters. I have no experience with them. So in Austria we hat some heaters with kero or at least a kind of “heating oil” but they requested a chimney but this ones on the pics seem to be stand alone. Don’t they produce some kind of exhausts? How about using up the oxygen? I mean, not that I really worry about that as there is everywhere air coming in here…
How about the smell? I think my taiwanese wife would apprichiate warmth but she would kill me if it is smelly instead.
Thanks for any information from a 3 level concrete fridge on a windy hill.
[quote=“mingshah”]Some kids are naughtier and they try to find out about this stuff even when they are told to not touch. Usually you go through this one time than they never touch again. (cruel I know, but that’s life and some people seem to be like this their whole life
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What do they say?
Live and Learn !
Learning by doing !
But there are also some people, that will never learn.
That means that the exhaust goes straight out into tle living room. As kerosene burns very very clean, then that’s not a great issue, unless you fire them up in a hermectially sealed room. They will eventually eat up all the oxygen, which is quite bad for you. Not much of an issue in a draughty Taiwanese 3 story concrete cave, as the one we both seem to live in.
Kerosene heaters will smell a little when starting, and a little bit more when turned off, but not when running. I don’t find the smell very offensive.
yeah yeah, sounds like but we arrived at a bad time with still a limited budget not prepared to settle for a causy appartment.
Now I have a wife at home with blue toes and a kid with a blue head Will have to hit them harder this evening to warm them
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Didn’t we warn you … even before you arrived in Taiwan we’ve told you … when you’re on an expat contract people tend to rent to their max. budget … big house, garden etc … but in winter … cold, cold, cold … in summer hot, hot, hot … so need for aircon (expensive) heating (expensive)
You should have rented one of those expat houses with heated floors …
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yeah yeah, sounds like but we arrived at a bad time with still a limited budget not prepared to settle for a causy appartment.
Now I have a wife at home with blue toes and a kid with a blue head Will have to hit them harder this evening to warm them [/quote]
Hm, sound interesting. So where can you buy them here and the more important question, where are you guys lifing for a short inspection before I buy one.
I better make such things like smell and so on sure (especially as this things are very much up to the individual feelings…) before I get them. Otherwise I will have to stay outside together with my warm heater, set into the free space by my wife.
Oh, just for reference, I live in Longtan on the “mountain”, close to the “Window on China” thing. So everything a bit closer by would be nice, not something on the otherside of this island.
Please tell me where I can find these heaters because I am about to go off the deep end being cold. HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP ASAP please!!!1 :help: :help: :help: :help:
I dont’ want to go to ebay. Isn’t there a story in The Taipei area that would have this. I mean people go camping here even in the winter. Wouldn’t camping stores carry such an item?
You sure you wouldn’t do it because of the African plate thread. But thanks, I look forward from hearing from you guys about where to go as I have a guest coming in Jan and I would hate for her to have to be uncomfortable.
Mr. He and I have a weekend appointment in Taipei this weekend, and if my hunch is correct, we’ll have access to the Kero heaters by early next week.
But be warned, their ability to warm (especially here) is determined greatly by the layout of your home. I’m lucky in the sense that my house is a bit unusual for Taiwan, and my living room is on the top floor. The heat therefore, has no place to go, and the same Kero heater that barely moved the temperature gauge in Ironman’s living room works very nicely in mine, even though it’s three times as big. Having wood floors helps too.
We are down to 7C at the moment, and although it took 2 hours, the small 10,000BTU unit was able to heat my living room to 23C.
Lastly, there is something really relaxing about having a fire in your living room (even if it is only a kerosene flame).
I can’t even begin to describe how nice it is (especially today) to come out of the cold into a heated room…
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone with a full-length coat in TW. at least not wool. maybe for fashion’s sake, rather than cold. Winters, in my experience, had cold winds, and it seemed biting because it was a combination of cold and humid wet. FWIW, I was fine with a fleece. Still, it was the blasting AC more than anything else that got me in Taipei. Now outside in the hills and mountains, yeah, it can be cold, even snow (if you’re hiking higher). So if you live up in some hill, and you’ve got a scooter, yeah, you need a coat to windbreak and keep warm, so maybe just a short coat is fine. sorry for the ramble.
Not for the cold, though ankle length doesn’t seem to be the style here anymore (it was a few years back).[/quote]
And when you drive a scooter you need to do as the natives … turn your coat back side to the front … doesn’t matter if your back is exposed to cold or rain … cold can’t harm your kidneys … :loco:
Thanks… Fear was that it would go towards the 20.000 NT per 2 months which is not.
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(cruel I know, but that’s life and some people seem to be like this their whole life 
with blue toes and a kid with a blue head 
Will have to hit them harder this evening to warm them 
