I’m sure most of you have read or heard of the manga/comic “On Taiwan” by this Japanese author called Kobayashi Yoshinori. I believe this manga is full of crap. :fume: if anyone actually believes what he says or agree with him, they are full of crap too. The book praises the rape and pillage during the 50 years of Japanese occupation in Taiwan. It even suggest that women during that era volenteered to become “comfort women”. i don’t think i can continue to talk about this anymore, I’m too furious.
anyways, if I see Kobayashi Yoshinori someday, I’ll definently kick the living crap out of him. And I’ll stick his manga up his bleep. hope all the people who love Taiwan and R.O.C. agree with me.[/b]
The pro-Japan population in Taiwan probably disagree with you. I’m sure in the manga somewhere there a referrence to how great the Japanese train station were and how Taiwan is a great sex stop for Japanese tourist to.
If you read a lot of Japanese manga, you’ll note they don’t think much of foriegners, especially the Chinese.
Well, there is nothing wrong with free speech and it is true that the Japanese railroads are working much better than the Chinese ones. Heck we even used Japanese technology again to make our railroads.
www.taiwandc.org is a great source for True Taiwanese history. I think it is wrong to be anti-Japanese because after all they left many positive legacies in Taiwan.
But the facts are the KMT improved Taiwan even more than the Japanese colonial period on Taiwan.
And the KMT allowed Japan to import their mangas into Taiwan. Shouldn’t the Japanese publishers be at least a little sensitive to the feelings of the Taiwanese comfort women they raped?
Do we have to keep referring to them as “comfort women”? Since they were often kidnapped at the age of 13 or 14, they were hardly women. I also find it hard to believe that many girls this age would volunteer to become prostitutes in a war zone.
Of course, given the popularity of enjosei (sp?) in Japan, maybe Japanese girls would, but …
I’d never heard of it till today. (Here’s a Korean manga fan’s webpage on Mr. Yoshinori.) [Edit:] Earlier I wrote in this post that Mr. Kobayashi was a member of the Japanese Extreme Right Party. I did so because I misread an Internet article about him. Additionally, I was wrong, as far as I can tell, as to the existence of a “Japanese Extreme Right Party,” which I assumed was a translated name. There are extreme-right parties in Japan, such as Nihon Seinensha, but as far as I can tell, Mr. Kobayashi is not associated with them. I apologize for my mistake.[End edit.]
At least from what I’ve been able to find on Google on the comfort-women statement, Kobayashi Yoshinori claims to be quoting a then-high-ranking Taiwanese government official, Hsu Wen-lung. According to this 2/24/2001 Associated Press reprint:
[quote]Hsu Wen-lung allegedly made the comment during an interview with Yoshinori Kobayashi, whose new best-selling cartoon book about the island
That is some sad pedantic sophistry. How stupid does the Japanese-quisling think the Taiwanese people are? (No need to answer, its a rhetorical question) If one actually takes the time to dwell on that quote “the Japanese military did not force those women to become comfort women, rather it was their own parents who forced the women” you still come to the conclusion that those women are unwilling sex slaves who were used by the IJA.
I searched for headlines involving the man myself and I dug up this little gem.
Time to play quick! Deflect the attention as fast as you can by alleging those oh so evil mainlanders of the exact same thing! The ironic part is, is that the people of Jinmen and Matsu consider themselves Fujianese and are overwhelmingly blue, they would never support Hsu’s traitorous Taidu vendetta.
[quote=“Masaotakashi”]Hitler has nothing to do with Taiwan.
Facts are facts: Japanese colonial period did improve Taiwan.[/quote]
It’s an analogy you twat.
And Hitler did a lot to improve Germany too. Does that mean it’s wrong to be anti-Nazi?
Hitler did improve Germany, then the Americans destroyed it just as the Chinese did in 228 and America did when they cowardly dropped atomic bombs into Japan.
I’d like to hear how the KMT 1945-1986? were any better than the Japanese
I guess 228 was just something made up - and that missing uncle is just a figment of families imagination (that never happened under the Japanese). Or that my loser uncle, because he was KMT and in the army, got a free house and 80k a month until death. All he managed to do was get his children jobs in the local gov. Or that my wife had to wear a placard in school for speaking Taiwanese. Or the fact that my parents still won’t talk about politics over the phone for fear of wire tapping (OK, that’s a bit paranoid by my perspective).
According to my parents, the Japanese were a bunch of bastards, but that the real shocker was that the KMT treated them even worse.
No need to be an apologist for the Japanese, but to say that the Chinese treated the Taiwanese better is a joke (you have to be a 外省人
So, using your logic from before, it must obviously be wrong to be anti-Nazi or anti-Hitler. After all, he did a lot to help Germany, so it’s wrong to be against him, just like it’s wrong to be anti-Japanese about the occupation era because they did so much to help Taiwan. Right?
I am always astonished to read and hear so man pro-Hitler statements in Asia. Being German it is obvious to me, people do not have the slightest idea what they are talking about.
Killing millions of Germanies own population (Jews and others), was “improving Germany”, oh Jeez
Say, Masaotakashi, did it ever occured to you the Nazi’s alliance with Japan was only tactical? Did it ever occur to you asian people were also regarded as second class humans by the Nazis? Or do you match the Nazi’s scheme of being blonde and blue-eyed ???
Just using an extreme example to try and illustrate to Masao-kun the stupidity of his statement. Nothing seriously being argued, just trying to make a point.
You mean Godwin’s Law. “As a Usenet discussion grows longer,
the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” With the corollary that as soon as you invoke the Nazi imagery, you lose the argument because you’re obviously out of ideas. Not sure it holds in an actual political argument though.
You’re missing the points. First, the Nazi thing was an analogy to illustrate Masao-kun’s idiotic comment before. Secondly, no-one is saying that the killing of millions was an improvment.
Kobayashi may or may not be a member of a far-right party. But from what I’ve read (including a lengthy academic work focused on the politics of that work) On Taiwan is most definitely in the camp of Japanese fascism. It is filled with worship of the emperor and other such revealing traits.
One of the main reasons it has gathered as many positive remarks as it has in Taiwan is its holding up of Lee Teng-hui as a model of “the Japanese spirit,” which Kobayashi says is now lacking in Japan.