https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4044442
This news story mentions the push add this to the Taiwan legal code? Anyone here thinks this works? (In Malaysia which does it, it seems crime rate is higher so to me it does not deter crime)
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4044442
This news story mentions the push add this to the Taiwan legal code? Anyone here thinks this works? (In Malaysia which does it, it seems crime rate is higher so to me it does not deter crime)
Singapore certainly does the former – not sure about the latter. Singapore doesn’t have much of certain types of crime, but then it doesn’t have much corruption either (#4 in last year’s CPI), whereas Malaysia does (#51 last year).
If people figure they can escape punishment even when caught because they can always pay someone off (even if they’re overestimating their own resourcefulness), it stands to reason that that will decrease the deterrent effect of any kind of punishment, even capital.
Thanks for link, interesting to see Taiwan’s rankings is almost the same as the Americans.
As far as I’m aware Taiwan still technically retains the death penalty for murder (generally commuted to life imprisonment), so I’m not sure where caning comes into this at all.
IMO the aim of any criminal justice system should be to simply remove criminals from polite society with the maximum expediency and least cost, but without heaping additional crimes (eg., caning, public humiliation, or killing, “lawful” or otherwise) onto the shoulders of said society; because, if the latter point isn’t upheld, polite society loses it claim to being polite.
It’s a freagin’ “political commentator on Sunday (Nov. 1) called for the legalization of caning as a punishment for his crimes.”
Same as the guy on the elevator asking question.
It means nothing.
Taiwan should and will follow it’s own values.
As should Malaysia.
When corruption is legal and called business as usual
so much of our things pass through there and change labeling. Gotta love it
I doubt Taiwan goes this route, Singapore is already an embarrassment
Taiwan does not need go this route. Caning in S’pore may sure scare some people but still crime there, Taiwan does not do this and has low crime rate.
Only scares the obedient and afraid. The whole construct of their murderous justice system and fear mongering society is what stops people, less so caning
Taiwan is a few generations away from even being remotely as obedient as Singaporeans. Stop people from what is probably more the question.
2024, Singapore is still China 2.0.
Imagine this: a full-grown 25-year-old “adult” on a skateboard, vandalizing the MRT system like some rebellious teenager who never grew up. Or better yet, a Taiwanese gangster who thinks he’s untouchable, causing chaos in the streets. Now picture them bent over, receiving a few well-earned strokes of the cane… instant attitude adjustment.
Crime rates? Slashed overnight. Suddenly, all those “misunderstood youths” and wannabe tough guys would think twice before acting like degenerates. And let’s not forget the Chinese spies sneaking around Taiwan, spreading propaganda and undermining national security. Imagine the poetic justice of them getting a caning before being booted back to their glorious motherland.
A little discipline goes a long way. Maybe it’s time Taiwan stopped being soft and started making an example out of those who clearly need it.
Oh and maybe New York should take notes. Their subway system is a complete joke, packed with fare evaders, graffiti taggers, and criminals who know they won’t face consequences. Six lashes of the cane for jumping the turnstile? Sounds like a quick way to clean up the place.
What do you think?
Sounds like Singapore style.
No. Any form of government violence promotes certain type of people to gain attention by being copycats. These types of proposals are just trying to make societal issues go away by pretending that punishment already addressed the problems.
Maybe @tempogain could run a beta test on this site.
We could just do Gaining
What do you think?
I think you should try it out first before suggesting it.
In the unlikely event that people like Han Kuo-Yu and Fu Kun-chi got enough power to enact something like this, the Constitutional Court would strike it down immediately as a violation of human dignity.
Sounds like Singapore style.
Man! That’s what we need here!
There have always been people in Taiwan who think Singapore in general and caning in particular is a good idea. Almost all of them are conservative KMT types who never wanted real democracy in the first place. Maybe you guys should vote KMT if you don’t do so already. Your ideological home in Taiwan is waiting for you.
I would argue it’s much less cruel than spending decades in prison, however some people crave pain.