[quote]Pat Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network’s The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
From the August 22 broadcast of The 700 Club:
ROBERTSON: if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. … We have the Monroe Doctrine… We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.[/quote]
Perhaps this is one “Christian” who should be thrown to the lions
[quote=“Dragonbones”]Robertson called for the assassination of Venezuela’s president
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Maybe he was a little irritated at Chavez for calling “Bush” the lord of War.
President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela has launched a blistering tirade against the United States, describing President George W Bush as the “lord of war”.
Mr Chavez also pledged to send troops to the aid of President Fidel Castro if Washington ever dared to order an invasion of Cuba.
People have asked me how I can support Fidel if he’s a dictator. But Cuba doesn’t have a dictatorship
Getting back to this thread:
Pat Robertson is a politico first and foremost. He was a Presidential candidate and is more often quoted speaking politically than religiously.
This is what he was doing here.
I have no interest in defending Pat Robertson. I persoanlly think he is a fringe element who is used to exemplify the desired bad elemensts of Christianity by the left wing. In this case, he is correct about Hugo Chavez being a danger. He’s a marxist nutball who hates the US and is cozying up to every dictator and terrorist group who is willing to kiss his major petro-dollar a$$. I always find it rather boring that some are quick start up the “idiot Christians” song & dance. Maybe you were not headed there; if not - good for you. This was exactly the response this story was meant to elicit.
Having said this; I do believe that some folks do deserve to die. Mugabe is one, Kim Il Jung in N. Korea is another, Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Caceasu(sp?) and quite a number of others through out both past and present history. In this case, what we have here is Robertson running at the mouth and getting press that will/is being used against good people, and the USA. But Robertson will get press time and $$$'s from it.
Chavez, IMO, does pose a threat. He may be turning into the “Sandinistas with Money” of this point-in-time. There are a variety of ways to destablize his regieme. I feel certain that a number of politically
expedient methods are being looked into.
Chavez doesn’t bow down to the US so he must be a threat to world stability…that’s crap.
when are the neo-cons going to stop playing “world police”?
in the event he does commit an international crime (not just something the US leadership finds threatening) I could understand taking action. until then, chill out and quit playing god.
such paranoia can’t be healthy. this kind of knee-jerk reaction usually costs lives.
none of this cuban alliance/marxist activity means a damn thing to the powers that be. the ONLY reason the US would take out Chavez is for the oil…
as we have seen, that type of thing can be costly…
and yes, Robertson is a nut-job with very little support. he is just another idiot feeding off of the irrational fears of gullible Americans.
Wasn’t headed there. No, he’s just an idiot whose waving of the Bible irritates me precisely because of his fringe idiocy and my perception of hypocrisy on his part.
So what’s the difference between Osama Bin Laden and Pat Robertson now?
Both are using video media to promote violence among their followers against a foriegn State.
Seriously the 700 Club of the USA is not just some “fringe” show. It is a nationally televised show in the USA.
I wonder what the host of the 700 Club Hoy, the Latin American version of the show is going to say…“Presidente Chevez de la matanza para el aceite. El Dios Bendice.”
Pat Robertson basically issued a fatwa to have someone killed… the guy should be jailed for inciting violence, or just ignored. I’m not so certain he is such a fringe element - the Christian Coalition is nothing to laugh at.
If Chavez doesn’t want to sell oil to the US at all or wants to diversify his sellers, then who’s to say he can’t. As far I can tell, Venezuela is a sovereign country not beholden to the U.S. or maybe the neocons in this here forum think differently.
Uhm in Frank Herbert’s Dune didn’t the desert dwellers, Freman (aka Free men), eventual win the Jihad against the Federation all in the name of their messiah, Paul Atreides.
[quote=“ac_dropout”]Uhm in Frank Herbert’s Dune didn’t the desert dwellers, Freman (aka Free men), eventual win the Jihad against the Federation all in the name of their messiah, Paul Atreides.
This does not bode well for the USA. [/quote]
The Fremen (not Freman) win against the Corrino Emperor Shaddam the 4th, and St Alia the Knife kills the Baron Harkonnen. But at the end of the entire saga, the Fremen die out in little reservations, pitifully going extinct.
There is no Federation. Are you thinking STARTREK?
Then the Bene Gesserit (Jesuits) win. So YAY for the Bible Belt/Indian Prana-Bindu? Uh oh. I don’t get your connection. Did you even read the book? This does not bode well, everyone can see your confusion.
More info on Hugo Chavez detailing his his military build-up of Venezuela. Its quite massive; far exceeding the normal needs of a country enjoying no-military involement and with massive petro-dollar revenues. The PRC, read - PLA, plays an important part in this.
I look for the lefties to soon adopt him as their “revolutionary role model” celeb du’ jure (a’ la’ Che-baby & later the Sandinistas) - t-shirts and all.
[quote]Hugo Chavez vs. America
By Dale Hurd, CBN News Sr. Reporter
[quote=“TainanCowboy”]More info on Hugo Chavez detailing his his military build-up of Venezuela. Its quite massive; far exceeding the normal needs of a country enjoying no-military involement and with massive petro-dollar revenues. The PRC, read - PLA, plays an important part in this.
I look for the lefties to soon adopt him as their “revolutionary role model” celeb du’ jure (a’ la’ Che-baby & later the Sandinistas) - t-shirts and all.
[quote]Hugo Chavez vs. America
By Dale Hurd, CBN News Sr. Reporter
Actually. the removal of Chavez would probably save a lot of lives in the future, and I’m not talking American lives. But then again, I can see beyond the end of my nose and am not beholden to any one philosophy.
Hugo Chavez appears to me to be a throwback leftist thug who sees a distorted view of the world through Marxist lenses.
I’ll be surprised if he leaves anything but a negative legacy.
Interestingly enough:
"Oil prices rose Monday as traders weighed the effects of sabotage that disrupted Iraq’s southern pipeline exports against partially resumed crude production in Ecuador. . . .
Some stability came from South America, where Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said his country will loan oil to Ecuador until its domestic production stabilizes, easing concerns that the Andean nation’s export commitments to the United States might not be met.
“Chavez’s move was quite good news for the market,” said chief commodities strategist Tetsu Emori at Mitsui Bussan Futures in Tokyo, Japan. “It came as something of a surprise to most because Chavez has always been bullish. But it’s a welcome move.”
Bush administration officials Tuesday disavowed Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson’s call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.
State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Tuesday that Robertson has the right of any private citizen to say whatever he wants, but added that the televangelist’s remarks “do not represent the views of the United States.”
“His comments are inappropriate and, as we have said before, any allegations that we are planning to take hostile action against the Venezuelan government are completely baseless and without fact,” McCormack said.
Executive orders issued by presidents Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan banned political assassinations.
Well, this had my attention this morning and IP never does… until now.
I don’t know that he initiated the suggestion of an assassination, he infered that Chavez already believed that the U.S wanted to assassinate him and that perhaps the U.S should oblige. Something we are all probably thinking anyway.
However, time and place. Robertson is not in a position to declare such far out statements. Although, heck, if it were Donahue making the same statements OR Rush Limbaugh, I don’t think anyone would make a huge deal about it. It’s some Christian dude with a political message and now people want his show not to be aired. Why? Is the U.S going to act because of his opinion? Is Chavez going to attack?
IMO, I think that Chavez has probably done just as much to deserve a U.S attack as Iraq, but doesn’t have as much oil and is closer to home. Chavez is lining himself up against the U.S. Why should he get treated as anything less than a terrorist.
No, I don’t agree with Robertson and his actions, although I do agree with what he said. Just not how he said it.
