Lowest birth rate in the world

chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/nati … ng-the.htm

Well im not surprised, there are mostly 3 types of females in taiwan:

  1. KTV workers… or should i just say wh**es
  2. local students/workers whom are too stressed to consider marriage and children
  3. those that go overseas for education and never return… i know many of these personally.

Not to let the guys off either, most of them are too boneidle to even cross the street right, let alone start a family!.

So 1% birth rate, what can the goverment possibly do to stop this… well nothing of course, in 20 years time they wont even be in the same job and would of scammed enough cash to bugger off somewhere else anyway!.
So thats it, taiwan hits the fan in 2021 , cant say im sad, it was inevitable.

What’s the problem? Taiwan could easily attract immigrants if it wanted to.

I’d say it also has a lot to do with the banning of business’s selling foreign wives. I wouldn’t be surprised if they back-doored this in in the near future. I could also envision a crackdown on abortion streets in major cities.

yeah, but at the baby step paces they have approached this issue up to this point I don’t see any thing happening in a timely manner.

looks like the Mainlanders will need to save the place…oh the irony.

There is also…

  1. Women who are unwilling to marry below their educational and or socioeconomic status and remain singe while waiting for Mr. Right to come along.
  2. Women who are gay, who in this country couldn’t hope to adopt.

The comment about the universities raises another issue. If natural selection were to prevail, substandard unis would close and only the better ones would remain. Instead, they are lobbying to be allowed to accept students from China to fill the places. When that happens you are going to see a flood of Chinese youth who in all likelihood will be taking the part-time jobs from local kids and not leaving after they finish their studies. You can be assured that in the absence of the one-child policy, they are going to breed like rabbits.

Bullshit. :raspberry:

It sounds good to me. Maybe in 20 years one will be able to find a parking spot without circling the block 20 minutes, take a vacation without being accompanied by hordes of other vacationers, and not get stuck in gridlock every day on the way home from the office.

1% birth rate? Finally Taiwan is doing something right. :bravo:

[quote=“redwagon”][quote=“smellybumlove”]

  1. Women who are gay, who in this country couldn’t hope to adopt.

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Adopt what? The birth rate is 1% remember?

A generous government cash incentive, maybe US $30,000 or so, should be hard to resist for many of the greedy fuckers I work with. :2cents:

way way way too many people in Taiwan already.

Well that’s presumably what the China Post wants you to think. I don’t really believe that a low birth rate is particularly problematic though. Sure it will put pressure on health care and benefits, but most governments will just welch out of their obligations if that looks like it will become an issue (e.g. Thatcher changed the indexation link on the state pension from average earnings to the RPI which caused the purchasing power to drop over time)

I’d say China has more of a long term demographic problem than Taiwan - the one child policy will bring on then normal Asian country problem of falling birth rates sooner rather than later. It seems like you’ve got more chance of dealing with it if you have a GDP per capita of lots (Taiwan, Japan, South Korea) rather than a mere pittance (China).

[quote=“redwagon”]There is also…

  1. Women who are unwilling to marry below their educational and or socioeconomic status and remain singe while waiting for Mr. Right to come along.[/quote]

And women who want to marry above their status, and wait.
And couples who can’t afford their own apartment) so how the hell are they gonna also pay for kids and college?)

Personally, I hope to see a population decline, with builders all the while continuing to build offices, stores and apartments, leading to a total collapse in the currently ridiculous property values and commercial rents, so that we can afford to buy an apartment and a storefront, and so that we can find free parking (thus facilitating car ownership). If I were rich or a property owner and landlord, I guess I’d feel differently.

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Adopt what? The birth rate is 1% remember?[/quote]
There are still plenty of unwanted kids around, even in that 1%.

Agree with all the others who correctly state that Taiwan’s current most serious problem is overpopulation. Root cause of most problems in this country. I think the real problem with a 1% birth rate is that the people who are currently having the most kids are those least able to feed/clothe/educate them. I would support any move toward reducing the stupid superstitious [strike]custom[/strike] bad habit that requires male children. Removing / reducing the stigma of putting unwanted children up for adoption would also be great. I think it’s better for a child to be raised by a couple who truly want her than by a couple who were trying for a son and ended up with yet another unwanted girl. I’d support amending laws to allow gay couples the chance to adopt those unwanted kids.

Of course in a less xenophobic culture there could be adoption from outside, but I don’t think many Taiwanese are ready for that just yet.

[quote=“Dragonbones”]Personally, I hope to see a population decline, with builders all the while continuing to build offices, stores and apartments, leading to a total collapse in the currently ridiculous property values and commercial rents, so that we can afford to buy an apartment and a storefront, and so that we can find free parking (thus facilitating car ownership). If I were rich or a property owner and landlord, I guess I’d feel differently.[/quote]As do I. But the prospects for teaching down the road… well, if it’s getting tight now, just wait.

I fail to understand how anyone believes that Taiwan is overcrowded, has no-one on Forumosa been to Hong Kong, S.Korea, Tokyo, London or New York? Taiwan has oodles of space and a tiny population.

[quote=“Edgar Allen”][quote=“redwagon”][quote=“smellybumlove”]

  1. Women who are gay, who in this country couldn’t hope to adopt.

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Adopt what? The birth rate is 1% remember?[/quote]

Finally read the article and realised it isn’t 1% its 1.07 births per female - which would be close to 50% by my simplistic reckoning.

Hong Kong, Seoul, Tokyo and other cities you mention are even more grossly overcrowded. The world is well past its sustainable carrying density. Sure, you may be able to cram more people in, but at what cost to the other species on the planet, and how much longer do you think that the increase can continue? Or, in your world, are humans the only species that matters?

Now, maybe you meant Australia has oodles of space and a tiny population. I would agree with you there: and still point out that Australia is probably at its maximum carrying capacity right now, or past it, anyway.

That’s like failing to understand that cheeseburgers with fries are not healthy food, on the basis of having seen people eat double cheeseburgers with bacon and poutine. :loco:

Well its a good thing i feel.
The enviroment here is so child unfriendly its not even funny, i have 2 kids and i never want to take them out to the park in case i get swamped by horrid behaving children with no supervision from their binglang chewing fathers.
Also the cleanliness/hygeine is just awful, my 3 month old has a horrible cough and a slight fever, we never take him out doors and always wash and clean ourselves before touching him when returning from outside, yet hes still sick due to the terrible enviroment we live in (taiwan).

There are indeed too many people, but not for the island, its just too condensed, if they spread out a little more than maybe it would be better.

This is a list of countries and dependencies ranked by human population density, and measured by the number of human inhabitants per square kilometre. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co … on_density

West coast - big ass mountain range - east coast

How many people do you think reside in your (/km²) personal bubble space? Me: less than 200

The population density of the ROC on Taiwan is 616 persons per square kilometer, making it the second highest in the world after Bangladesh. gio.gov.tw/taiwan-website/5- … pt02-1.htm

Demographics of Taiwan: Interesting read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Taiwan

Bullshit. :raspberry:

It sounds good to me. Maybe in 20 years one will be able to find a parking spot without circling the block 20 minutes, take a vacation without being accompanied by hordes of other vacationers, and not get stuck in gridlock every day on the way home from the office.

1% birth rate? Finally Taiwan is doing something right. :bravo:[/quote]

I agree. The very last thing this place needs is more children. Unless it’s cannon fodder one is after.