Mainlanders for Independence?

This snippet from the Taipei Times was fascinating:

“Lin is a long-time member of the Mainlander pro-independence group Goa-Sen-Lang Association for Taiwan Independence, as well as a former speechwriter for Vice President Annette Lu (呂秀蓮),” Yang said.

Goa-sen-lang is Taiwanese for Waishengren btw. Anyone know more about this group?

Like I’ve been trying to say - it’s a bad move ot try and conflate mainlander/waishengren with panblue with prounificationist all the time.

Brian

Brian,

(maybe you already know) the website of this organization “Goa-Sen-Lang Association for Taiwan Independence” is gati.org.tw

Some of the “mainlanders” in Taiwan do support the idea of an independent Taiwan, but unfortunately only a minority (surely <10%). :unamused:

Their website has a famous forum (Yi-Jian-Jiao-Liu). Lots of Chi-com supporters from China used to post their irrational, riduculous, and somewhat funny comments there. Kind of internet “warfield” for Taiwanese and Chinese. :smiling_imp:

Thanks for the website. I didn’t know. Curious, but my Chiense is not up to it. Just interested when they started, were they an offshoot of someone else, any well-known names behind them etc.

Brian

Brian and Amao thanks for your posts. I was going to start a thread about this.

This is really cool. Nice to see not all 49ers and their Offspring are incapable of free thinking. Most every 49er and their offspring that I know are little ting hua guai guai punks that think just like their parents and can’t think for themselves. Whatever happened to teenage rebellion? In the USA we are free thinkers and don’t just allow ourselves to be brainwashed by our parents and vote the way our parents teach us to vote. We argue about politics with our fathers and relatives or keep our thoughts to ourselves, but never blindly vote and think they way our parents think. I thought Chinese had stronger minds than that!?!?! Nice to know now that some of them do.

Drinking with a young waishengren guy last night. He said that since the election a lot of young people including waishengren have changed from ‘light-blue to light-green’. Anecdotal but interesting.

Brian

Remind me Hobart, where does ac_droput come from again? :wink:

Remind me Hobart, where does ac_droput come from again? :wink:[/quote]

Hahaha…well, he said he grew up in the States, but he is an “Ou A Han Ji” Most Ou a han Ji that I know are all tarot root in their political views.

Ou a han ji
is the spelling I just made up for the Taiwanese word I learned for a half sweet potato and half tarot root. In Taiwan, Mainlanders are sometimes represented as a Tarot root and Taiwan people are represented as Sweet potatos, thus if one of your parents was a 1949er and one was Taiwan ren then you are a ou a han ji.

For a lot of people in my demographic and younger the rational for “independence” and green support has nothing to do with KMT oppression.

It is more about pride in being from Taiwan. They still view PRC as being backwards. I met a lot of these people who are only a few years younger than me in colleges in the states. I was surprised by their opinions for the first time. I would state a vast majority in my demographic are green supporters.

A lot of the ROC graduates in the USA go to PRC to look for work and opportunities. They think it is humilitating that they have to explicity agree to the “One China” policy at the PRC embassy to get a visa.

I even once observed one instance where a ROC college student was not “accepted” by some PRC students on a social level in the USA. She took that as an affront to the fact she was from the ROC and not some other social incompatability in the group.

To these people they see the DPP as being able to “stand up” to PRC and USA and give them something to be proud about.