Mao offered U.S. ten million women

From CNN:

[quote]WASHINGTON (AP) – Amid a discussion of trade in 1973, Chinese leader Mao Zedong made what U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger called a novel proposition: sending tens of thousands, even 10 million, Chinese women to the United States.

[b]“You know, China is a very poor country,” Mao said, according to a document released by the State Department’s historian office.

“We don’t have much. What we have in excess is women. So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands.”

A few minutes later, Mao circled back to the offer. “Do you want our Chinese women?” he asked. “We can give you 10 million.”[/b]

After Kissinger noted Mao was “improving his offer,” the chairman said, “We have too many women. … They give birth to children and our children are too many.”

“It is such a novel proposition,” Kissinger replied in his discussion with Mao in Beijing. “We will have to study it.”[/quote]

They would never have given us the good looking ones.

That’s not the way I choose to imagine it. :howyoudoin:

I think the quotes are incorrect. The way I remember it, the Americans were chiding the Chinese for the restrictive policies on free movement of the population, including the right to emigrate. Mao just asked how many millions of economic refugees they wanted.

The Americans thought about it for a second and shut the f**k up.

dreamer! lol. i’m glad we had kissinger and not you in there to make the call. he knew the deal.

I’d have taken them! Though Mao would already have creamed off the best for himself.

He’d surely have had pretty traditional tastes, hence no darker skinned beauties at least. Or any ethnic honeys. Or shapely gals. I’m sure you would have found your cup runneth over no matter what.

Creamed.

It was a Republican administration. He should have offered them boys.

That’s funny! :roflmao:

Mao said all kinds of things. He was lucky to get out of bed by the time he was dealing with Nixon and Kissinger. Anyone ever read The Private Life of Chairman Mao? Fascinating stuff. Even from later photos, you can see that he just wasn’t there anymore. He’s eyes were fogged up - there was no focus. He used to say that if the Americans wanted nuclear conflict, they could have it. He made statements like: ‘What’s a few million dead Chinese people?’

But imagine what 10 million Chinese women would have done for the US economy. High heeled shoes and handbags would have been flying off the shelves like no tomorrow.

Yeah, that’s just what America needed during the Cold War. Ten million Maoist Jiang Qings in America reporting back to China. Considering the chaos at the time from the Cultural Revolution and the purge of moderate party people and so-called capitalist roaders [Deng], I’m sure they would have sent radical student spies or peasants with bad teeth and poor hygiene. Glad to see that Kissenger didn’t take them up on their offer.

Mao had traditional tastes in women? Not sure about that. The Chinese masses were traditionally pretty prudish about sex (different from the aristocrats and court people) and viewed it strictly as a means of reproducing. During the cultural revolution, Mao turned the whole government structure upside down, launched an anti-Confucian campaign after the death of Lin Bao, refused to shower for years, and slept with a harum of young ladies. Hates tradition, does not shower at all, and sleeps around a lot? Sounds like today’s anti-war crowd people–they look like Tarzan, walk like Jane, but smell like Cheetah :smiley:

Are these traditional "Chinese traits? :laughing: I would not view Mao’s taste in women or behavior as traditional in any sense, although “China Studies” ain’t my forte/area of expertise. Any comments on Mao and tradition?

CC, you forgot to mention that he refused to brush his teeth. He used to rinse with green tea, the preferred style of the peasant. I suppose that was traditional. :s

One thing I learned from that book (The Private Life of Chairman Mao) was that he was also homosexual. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, as the saying goes, but it’s just something that you never hear about. During his towel downs (his substitute for bathing) he used to urge male servants to give him a happy ending.

I sort of like to think of Mao as a determined, cold-hearted, calculating, brighter-than-most country bumpkin.

[quote=“Ed Lakewood”]CC, you forgot to mention that he refused to brush his teeth. He used to rinse with green tea, the preferred style of the peasant. I suppose that was traditional. :s

One thing I learned from that book (The Private Life of Chairman Mao) was that he was also homosexual. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, as the saying goes, but it’s just something that you never hear about. During his towel downs (his substitute for bathing) he used to urge male servants to give him a happy ending.

I sort of like to think of Mao as a determined, cold-hearted, calculating, brighter-than-most country bumpkin.[/quote]

Speaking of Mao… was Mao an uncle (JO JO) of Chiang Ching Kuo… uncle as in a third cousin who is a generation older…

I heard this and asked somebody else who said that this is a common story, and that the whole Chinese civil war and resulting cross straits stalemate was a big family feud over who rule should rule China

[quote=“gao_bo_han”]From CNN:

[quote]WASHINGTON (AP) – Amid a discussion of trade in 1973, Chinese leader Mao Zedong made what U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger called a novel proposition: sending tens of thousands, even 10 million, Chinese women to the United States.

[b]“You know, China is a very poor country,” Mao said, according to a document released by the State Department’s historian office.

“We don’t have much. What we have in excess is women. So if you want them we can give a few of those to you, some tens of thousands.”

A few minutes later, Mao circled back to the offer. “Do you want our Chinese women?” he asked. “We can give you 10 million.”[/b]

After Kissinger noted Mao was “improving his offer,” the chairman said, “We have too many women. … They give birth to children and our children are too many.”

“It is such a novel proposition,” Kissinger replied in his discussion with Mao in Beijing. “We will have to study it.”[/quote][/quote]

This information was also released. Kissinger seems to have rejected the advice of his “China hands” and influenced Ford to not recognize China (which Carter did). Kissinger also calls “kiwis” bores. :laughing:

ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jZZK … AD8UQE4IG0

Should of taken the ten mil. That’s all I’m sayin…

i dunno. how many chinese babies (almost exclusively girls) have been bought at the white swan 5 star hotel/ US embassy on the opium warehouse island in guangdong?

give away? heck laowai’ll pay 80,000 RMB for one. but it is not state sponsored human trafficking.

[quote=“skeptic yank”]i dunno. how many Chinese babies (almost exclusively girls) have been bought at the white swan 5 star hotel/ US embassy on the opium warehouse island in guangdong?

give away? heck laowai’ll pay 80,000 RMB for one. but it is not state sponsored human trafficking.[/quote]

Almost, the PLA supposedly run that baby buying gig. Shamian’s the name of that weird little island.

Was at the White Swan some years ago with Meesus Huang enjoying a fantastic buffet lunch which included, for Rmb20, all the wine you could drink. Somewhere towards the end of the lunch after realising the staggering number of Caucasian couples with Chinese babies, I hatched a plot to have Meesus Huang run up screaming “that’s my baby!” Mercifully, good sense won that day.

HG

yes, that tiny island is one crazy whacked out place.

Really? The Shamian adoption bit is purportedly a state-run enterprise?