# Massive explosion in Beirut **URL:** \ **Category:** Open Forum\ **Tags:** taitung, incident\ **Created:** [August 4, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020 "2020-08-04T16:05:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MikeN1](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/e19adc/32.png) [@MikeN1](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/MikeN1)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 5:13am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/21 "2020-08-05T05:13:34Z")
And the Mouth That Walks Like A Man is babbling on about how his generals told him it was a terrorist attack, causing the U.S. military to quickly deny it, meaning Trump has pulled this out of his ass again, while the usual gang posts faked videos to lie about it- I mean, “just asking”. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/22 "2020-08-05T05:14:52Z")
I read something about how that automatically justifies some kind of alert military posture in the region? Not that that necessarily means anything. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew/32/179806_2.png) [@Andrew](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/23 "2020-08-05T05:21:44Z")
> [@CTaitung](#): > > The video above had someone “circle” the screen area and around the 6~7-second mark something appears in the “circle” that looks to fly fast straight into the fire, like a missile. Who knows. Isn’t is just a bird? I seem to remember seeing several small flocks of birds flying around in one of the videos (although I can’t find the video now). ![lebanon birds](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/2/8/28e0ff4ac34a9b2af0ae019ac2a65772ff232780.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/24 "2020-08-05T05:22:41Z")
Could be a bird. All kinds of chatter. A few saying it was an Iranian ammo depot. Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/25 "2020-08-05T06:23:39Z")
> [@Mr\_PBH](#): > > “I will not rest until we find the person responsible for what happened so we can hold them to account and impose the most severe punishment,” Probably already got punished. ---
**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/26 "2020-08-05T06:47:12Z")
I wouldn’t be surprised if our own port in Kaohsiung had a warehouse full of explosives ready for a tragedy. ---
**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/27 "2020-08-05T06:48:05Z")
> [@MikeN1](#): > > And the Mouth That Walks Like A Man is babbling on about how his generals told him it was a terrorist attack, causing the U.S. military to quickly deny it, meaning Trump has pulled this out of his ass again, while the usual gang posts faked videos to lie about it- I mean, “just asking”. I bet they’ll say he was “trolling” again. 🙄That’s their go-to response whenever he says something completely asinine. ---
**Author:** ![snowstorm](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@snowstorm](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/snowstorm)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/28 "2020-08-05T06:53:34Z")
Interesting development from CNN: Anthony May, a retired ATF explosives investigator for the US government, said that the **bright or dark red cloud seen in videos of the blast “is not consistent with ammonium nitrate.” The telltale sign of the compound would be a yellow smoke cloud, he said.** “I’m not saying that ammonium nitrate was not involved in this, it may have been but it appears that there were other items in there as well,” May said. The amount of explosives and the shockwaves created by the blast, May said, “is typical of what would be equivalent to a kiloton nuclear bomb going off as far as the explosive weight is concerned.” > **[Improperly stored ammonium nitrate linked to Beirut explosion that injured...](https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/05/middleeast/beirut-port-explosion-ammonium-nitrate-intl-hnk/index.html)** > > A warehouse storing thousands of tons of unsecured highly explosive material has emerged as a possible source of the massive blast that ripped through the Lebanese capital on Tuesday, killing at least 80 people, injuring 4,000 and sending a shock... ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 7:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/29 "2020-08-05T07:29:00Z")
This scientist is saying it is consistent > **[Beirut explosion: What do we know about ammonium nitrate?](https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/422824/beirut-explosion-what-do-we-know-about-ammonium-nitrate)** > > An estimated 2750 tons of ammonium nitrate had been stored at the Beirut warehouse where a massive explosion has occurred. It's an ingredient in fertiliser - and some bombs. This too > **[What is ammonium nitrate, the chemical that exploded in Beirut?](https://theconversation.com/what-is-ammonium-nitrate-the-chemical-that-exploded-in-beirut-143979)** > > For combustion to occur, oxygen must be present. Ammonium nitrate prills provide a much more concentrated supply of oxygen than the air around us. > An ammonium nitrate explosion produces massive amounts of [nitrogen oxides](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/bright-orange-mine-blast-concerns-residents/12332224). Nitrogen dioxide (NO₂) is a red, bad-smelling [gas](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-15/bright-orange-mine-blast-concerns-residents/12332224). Images from Beirut reveal a distinct reddish colour to the plume of gases from the blast. > **[Nitrogen dioxide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_dioxide)** > > Dinitrogen tetroxide > Dinitrogen trioxide > Nitric oxide > Nitrous oxide > Nitrogen dioxide is a chemical compound with the formula NO2. One of several nitrogen oxides, nitrogen dioxide is a reddish-brown gas. It is a paramagnetic, bent molecule with C2v point group symmetry. Industrially, NO2 is an intermediate in the synthesis of nitric acid, millions of tons of which are produced each year, primarily for the production of fertilizers. > Nitrogen dioxide is poisonous and can be fatal if inhaled in l... > At higher temperatures it is a reddish-brown gas.[[8]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_dioxide#cite_note-EPAmain-8) ---
**Author:** ![slawa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/slawa/32/112823_2.png) [@slawa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/slawa)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 7:36am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/30 "2020-08-05T07:36:30Z")
Those are just birds. Look at some more high quality videos. Some are very close up to the warehouse. You can see some fireworks were burning and going off inside the warehouse. Then suddenly red/brown smoke intensifying quickly, this is when the fertilizer caught fire. Shortly after it all blew up. Welcome to August 2020. The year is not over yet, enjoy your stay. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/31 "2020-08-05T07:37:23Z")
> [@slawa](#): > > Welcome to April 2020. Jesus, we have to relive those months you mean? ---
**Author:** ![slawa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/slawa/32/112823_2.png) [@slawa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/slawa)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 7:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/32 "2020-08-05T07:37:52Z")
haha fixed ---
**Author:** ![Andrew](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew/32/179806_2.png) [@Andrew](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/33 "2020-08-05T07:44:59Z")
> [@snowstorm](#): > > The amount of explosives and the shockwaves created by the blast, May said, “is typical of what would be equivalent to a kiloton nuclear bomb going off as far as the explosive weight is concerned.” I don’t get why this “expert” would need to mention nuclear bombs here, unless it’s just to get attention by scaring people. As I understand it, when people talk about the kiloton/megaton yields of nuclear weapons, it’s just referring to an explosive yield equivalent to _x_ tons of TNT. That is, he’s saying this explosion had a yield equivalent to 1000 tons of TNT, which is order-of-magnitude consistent with the several thousand tons of explosive stuff reported to be in the warehouse, especially after correcting for the lower yield of ammonium nitrate relative to TNT. The “nuclear bomb” part is irrelevant here - nuclear vs non-nuclear isn’t important for this parameter, which is the point of the calculation. ---
**Author:** ![Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Taiwan_Luthiers)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 8:40am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/34 "2020-08-05T08:40:15Z")
If it was actually a nuclear bomb there would be radiation. ---
**Author:** ![slawa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/slawa/32/112823_2.png) [@slawa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/slawa)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 8:44am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/35 "2020-08-05T08:44:15Z")
> **[亲历贝鲁特大爆炸：我的惊惧与黎巴嫩人令人心碎的镇静](https://cn.nytimes.com/world/20200805/beirut-explosion-first-person/)** > > 时报驻贝鲁特记者亲历了这场致命灾难。她的公寓被炸毁，在茫然时得到陌生的黎巴嫩人的照顾。在这个历经无数次灾难的地方，人们训练有素，镇静得令人心碎。 ![](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/d/c/dcd2c26564db4b785bbd1326aa216704ed02b743.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Andrew](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew/32/179806_2.png) [@Andrew](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/36 "2020-08-05T08:54:05Z")
Yes…obviously? And…? ---
**Author:** ![BiggusDickus](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/biggusdickus/32/90381_2.png) [@BiggusDickus](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/BiggusDickus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 8:55am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/37 "2020-08-05T08:55:14Z")
> [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > If it was actually a nuclear bomb there would be radiation. There’s always radiation, TL. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 10:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/38 "2020-08-05T10:23:19Z")
> [@Andrew](#): > > I don’t get why this “expert” would need to mention nuclear bombs here, unless it’s just to get attention by scaring people. Because when people say “Mushroom cloud” that’s what they think of. > [@Taiwan\_Luthiers](#): > > If it was actually a nuclear bomb there would be radiation. Obviously…that and most of Beirut would be ash. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew/32/179806_2.png) [@Andrew](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/39 "2020-08-05T10:26:47Z")
Yeah, but he’s quoted as saying that in the context of “a kiloton nuclear bomb” - the nuclear there is irrelevant. There’s no need to bring any mention of “nuclear” into the discussion unless you’re trying to scare people. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_PBH](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/mr_pbh/32/230938_2.png) [@Mr\_PBH](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Mr_PBH)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2020, 10:32am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020/40 "2020-08-05T10:32:20Z")
> [@Andrew](#): > > Yeah, but he’s quoted as saying that in the context of “a kiloton nuclear bomb” - the nuclear there is irrelevant. I think they do that to show how big it is in relation to a real nuke going off…so for _show_. I honestly thought the second explosion was a missile strike. Doesn’t the US have a Ninja Ginsu missile or some such terrible thing now? [Previous page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020.md?page=1) [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/massive-explosion-in-beirut/195020.md?page=3)