Michael Yon says the Iraq War is over

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[quote]Independent reporter Michael Yon has spent more time in Iraq embedded with combat soldiers than any other journalist in the world, and a few days ago he boldly declared the war over:

Barring any major and unexpected developments (like an Israeli air strike on Iran and the retaliations that would follow), a fair-minded person could say with reasonable certainty that the war has ended. A new and better nation is growing legs. What’s left is messy politics that likely will be punctuated by low-level violence and the occasional spectacular attack. Yet, the will of the Iraqi people has changed, and the Iraqi military has dramatically improved, so those spectacular attacks are diminishing along with the regular violence. Now it’s time to rebuild the country, and create a pluralistic, stable and peaceful Iraq. That will be long, hard work. But by my estimation, the Iraq War is over. We won. Which means the Iraqi people won.

Yon is braver than the rest of us for declaring the war over, but it’s important to understand that there are no final battles in counterinsurgencies and it’s impossible to pinpoint the exact dates when wars like this end. The anti-Iraqi insurgency – a war-within-a-war – really is effectively over. As long as another such war-within-a-war doesn’t break out, Yon will appear more perceptive than the rest of us in hindsight when the currently low levels of violence finally do taper off into relative insignificance.

What most of us still think of as “war” in Iraq is, at this point, a rough and unfinished peacekeeping mission. Whether it is officially over or not, it has certainly been downgraded to something else, and it’s about time more analysts and observers are willing to say so.[/quote]

Well, it’s nice to see the Americans are ending it already.

And that’s good news too.

Maybe safer than in Chicago?

Personally, I look for ‘low intensity warfare’ to continue there for quite a long time. Its just to “hot” of an area for “peace to break out all over the place.”*

* - an old expression for the unexpected ceasing of hostilities.

I look forward hearing W or Rice defend this victory of democracy, light and apple pie. I trust they’ll do a better job than they did when Hamas won the election in the Palestinian Authority.

[quote=“LA Times”]Anti-U.S. cleric Muqtada Sadr, whose feared militia was crushed by Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki two years ago, has leveraged support for his former enemy’s government into renewed influence over the country’s security forces, governors’ offices and even its prisons.

In recent months, Maliki’s government has freed hundreds of controversial members of the Shiite Muslim cleric’s Mahdi Army and handed security positions to veteran commanders of the militia, which was blamed for some of the most disturbing violence in the country’s civil war and insurgency against U.S. forces.[/quote]

[quote=“TainanCowboy”]Maybe safer than in Chicago?

Personally, I look for ‘low intensity warfare’ to continue there for quite a long time. Its just to “hot” of an area for “peace to break out all over the place.”*

* - an old expression for the unexpected ceasing of hostilities.[/quote]

It’s all relative

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awmq9aIrga4

Told you so…

And those 35,000 to 50,000 troops… they will be there for a while… whether as advisors or peacekeepers or…

[quote=“fred smith”]Told you so…

And those 35,000 to 50,000 troops… they will be there for a while… whether as advisors or peacekeepers or…[/quote]

Engineers, medical, logistics , military police, base staff aka pogs (personnel other than grunts) that sort of stuff. All combat oriented units are out.