This is an article about “mind wandering” that I found very interesting. Apparently one of the times that we don’t “mind wander” is while “making love”. Although I bet they were not asking the average married couple that question.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/10/the-importance-of-mind-wandering/
[quote=“fenlander”]This is an article about “mind wandering” that I found very interesting. Apparently one of the times that we don’t “mind wander” is while “making love”. Although I bet they were not asking the average married couple that question.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/10/the-importance-of-mind-wandering/[/quote]
Glad to see they are working on putting to rest these anal retentive notions about kids “not paying attention” and that stuff. 
A related autobiographical comment: schools and ADD/ADHD! If i had been born in the US i surely would have been drugged into stupor right from grade 1 - for misdiagnosed boredom. 
I have to admit, though, that my teachers tried their best to cope with me in what little room to move they had in the system. And, anyway, before long i had figured out myself how to cope better with the school situation, and now i can thank the school system for helping me become good at conscious daydreaming (an important and valuable activity in my life).
[quote=“yuli”][quote=“fenlander”]This is an article about “mind wandering” that I found very interesting. Apparently one of the times that we don’t “mind wander” is while “making love”. Although I bet they were not asking the average married couple that question.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/10/the-importance-of-mind-wandering/[/quote]
Glad to see they are working on putting to rest these anal retentive notions about kids “not paying attention” and that stuff.
A related autobiographical comment: schools and ADD/ADHD! If i had been born in the US i surely would have been drugged into stupor right from grade 1 - for misdiagnosed boredom. I have to admit, though, that my teachers tried their best to cope with me in what little room to move they had in the system. And, anyway, before long i had figured out myself how to cope better with the school situation, and now i can thank the school system for helping me become good at conscious daydreaming (an important and valuable activity in my life).[/quote]
I have always believed it was the kids that could not pay attention to lessons that were the smart ones.
[quote=“yuli”][quote=“fenlander”]This is an article about “mind wandering” that I found very interesting. Apparently one of the times that we don’t “mind wander” is while “making love”. Although I bet they were not asking the average married couple that question.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/10/the-importance-of-mind-wandering/[/quote]
Glad to see they are working on putting to rest these anal retentive notions about kids “not paying attention” and that stuff.
A related autobiographical comment: schools and ADD/ADHD! If I had been born in the US i surely would have been drugged into stupor right from grade 1 - for misdiagnosed boredom. I have to admit, though, that my teachers tried their best to cope with me in what little room to move they had in the system. And, anyway, before long I had figured out myself how to cope better with the school situation, and now i can thank the school system for helping me become good at conscious daydreaming (an important and valuable activity in my life).[/quote]
Great post, Yuli. You are right, you would have drugged if you were getting into trouble for boredom. It’s one of my biggest gripes as a school teacher in the States. Yes, as a teacher, not as a parent who has to deal with drugging her kid. A drugged out kid is cut off from half his/her mind and most of his/her potential. But they ARE so much more docile and compliant. 
A drug is not a simple fix, it’s a chemical that you’re putting into your child’s body. I can’t understand why more parents don’t refuse to do this and find alternate education solutions.
I’d like to believe that this applied/applies in my case, too. 
OTOH, there is a grain of truth in there: i can say, with immodest pride, that i am smart enough to avoid “IQ” tests (i never had a desire to know the number that supposedly results from such a test, and i actively don’t want it: i consider it at best useless information and at worst something that can poison a person’s mind). And, anyway, there are the EIQ and SIQ, and such…
Yeah, and who needs that when you can be awake instead…!
What i find mindblowingly amazing about this drugging kids stuff is that it is happening in the US, of all places: the country where smarts, excellence, ambition, individuality, self-realization, and all that are supposedly written in the constitution (well, not quite, but certainly in the unwritten constitution, no?). Like, if it had happened in the Soviet Union or in China i am sure that would have generated a lot of media and other activity in the US.
No money? No time? No skills? No self-respect? No sense of independence? Surely there are some people who refuse this kind of maltreatment of their children - maybe they live in Montana… But seriously, given the legal diversity of the individual states in many other regardas: is there not a single state that would have made this drugging practice illegal? Or have the pharma biggies all the politicians in their pockets?
Yeah, and who needs that when you can be awake instead…!
What I find mindblowingly amazing about this drugging kids stuff is that it is happening in the US, of all places: the country where smarts, excellence, ambition, individuality, self-realization, and all that are supposedly written in the constitution (well, not quite, but certainly in the unwritten constitution, no?). Like, if it had happened in the Soviet Union or in China I am sure that would have generated a lot of media and other activity in the US.
No money? No time? No skills? No self-respect? No sense of independence? Surely there are some people who refuse this kind of maltreatment of their children - maybe they live in Montana… But seriously, given the legal diversity of the individual states in many other regardas: is there not a single state that would have made this drugging practice illegal? Or have the pharma biggies all the politicians in their pockets?[/quote]
Of course!
And you’re right, a lot of parents just don’t care, or aren’t educated enough themselves. As far as this happening in the States, HA! “Education Reform” is a political stump, and teachers are election year scapegoats, and that’s about all there is to it. We absolutely, positively must NOT leave a single kid behind, even if that means we drug them sensless and drag them along behind the school bus!
That is a very good point and I also see the hypocrisy in that. It is also strange how the drugs to dumb people down are legal but the ones that “expand” minds or create euphoria are illegal. Well actually maybe that is not so strange after all a compliant dumbed down brain washed society is no doubt the goal of our masters. Just look around you and see how easily many people ingest the garbage they are fed sitting down in front of the TV munching on pop corn and hot dogs.
ouch i just wrote that through an earthquake lol
Good thread, Ritalin is also abused by many students so they can cram better. Many medjc students use illegally. The use of mind altering drugs on kids is seriously warped but it makes sense in a culture addicted to prescription pill popping. I believe it will be looked back to in the future similar to types of abuse or experimentation from decades ago are now looked at with horror by the current generation. The hypocrisy is a good point too but one can make that very obviously with legal alcohol but not other less potent drugs.