Interesting statement from Big John on the Occupy Wall Street thread. What exactly does this mean and who gets to determine how to enforce that?
Let me know… I have had a number of invites to join Taiwanease… it appears to be more interested in having debates and less about reassuring small minds in small jobs that their smallness is Big… if you get my drift…
Hey, It’s bigjohn who despite asking in thread and reporting 2 posts ignored the republican presidential primary trolls while temping Chewdawg for “liberal baiting”
FFS 
Interesting statement from Big John on the Occupy Wall Street thread. What exactly does this mean and who gets to determine how to enforce that?
Let me know… I have had a number of invites to join Taiwanease… it appears to be more interested in having debates and less about reassuring small minds in small jobs that their smallness is Big… if you get my drift…[/quote]
Fred, it’s quite simply a matter of observation that you tend to end up dominating the forums you can get involved in due to your posting volume and uncompromising position, not to mention your propensity to duel and make the whole thing personal. It gives me no pleasure to rain on your parade, but you must think of other people too: not everyone wants to log on to FredSmith.com when they check out the IP forum.
Your little “Big…” is an obvious reference to myself and once again you are making it personal.
We truly value someone of your knowledge and writing ability on this site, and would simply ask that you try to tone it down a bit for the sake of other posters.
If you want to discuss it further, please send me a PM.
[quote=“Okami”]Hey, It’s bigjohn who despite asking in thread and reporting 2 posts ignored the republican presidential primary trolls while temping Chewdawg for “liberal baiting”
FFS [/quote]
I have ignored no trolls. If you want to report a comment, please send me a PM. I would be happy to give it a second look.
So like kindergarten, every student gets his chance to discuss his or her feelings about a subject?
So if I post information that is relevant, it is still not acceptable? because others have not posted to the average? and if I have a position that I believe in then my refusal to compromise and even worse apparently my ability to post information as to why I believe in my position is to be considered as negatives on this forum?
You mean where I ask and ask and ASK posters to supply information that buttresses their view? and then they sorta kinda give half answers and return to ask me to prove it? and then when I do want to temp me for posting too much information? Make up your mind.
Yes, we must think of others. Everyone should have the same amount of space allocated to them to post their feelings on any and all subjects. Is that what you are saying?
Deleted comment but I´ll bet you can imagine what I said.
Nonsense. You want posters who agree with your positions. You don´t want the ones who disagree with your views to ¨win¨and argument. I noticed that during the whole Western decline and nihilism argument that you kept the thread open. It was only after I posted evidence after waiting page after page for any of the other posters to supply points buttressing their positions that I showed how incoherent the Occupy Wall Street posters and the movement are. THEN, you locked down the thread. IF that was a happy coincidence, I would like to hear how.
Why? The feedback forum is to provide feedback right? Why not have an open discussion here about these issues? Shouldn´t we be giving everyone a chance to post and not just make this the Big John Moderating site?
Total nonsense. At almost every juncture, you made that or similar demands. So there would be no place to lock the thread then would there without that seeming true to you?
Plus, it is even more nonsense that I only like posters who agree with my positions. I have learned a lot from people who have different positions than me, and have modded people who I agree with due to their style of argument.
I am simply asking you to tone it down a bit, for the sake of the other posters.
Also, a point to be made, when a moderator engages in a thread as a discussant, he or she should not be allowed to use his or her moderating status to their advantage. I think that this is clearly occurring.
Again, Big John, you asked me to supply proof, then you said it was not good enough but you have never supplied any such proof to back up your arguments. AND I suppose you will say that by my posting proof after proof after proof EXACTLY as you have asked that this will lead to my dominating the forum? spamming by posting too much information? You need to make up your mind about exactly what it is that you want and then stick to it. I made a comment earlier about your style of posting (as in never supplying anything to buttress your views while asking others to do so constantly) and that led to me being suspended. Tell me why given this style of debating that calling your efforts ¨beneat contempt¨would be inappropriate and why that would lead to a suspension? As long as this is the feedback forum, I would like to better understand why that is insulting and inappropriate. Thanks for any and all efforts to better enable me to follow the rules on this site.
We are done here. This is a waste of my time.
Interesting statement from Big John on the Occupy Wall Street thread. What exactly does this mean and who gets to determine how to enforce that? [/quote]
I unsubscribed to the International Politics RSS feed, and stopped reading that forum, because of what had come to seem like blog spam and the generally antagonistic atmosphere. Whatever; the style people use in that forum doesn’t suit what I want to read or reply to, and that’s the right of those people to write what they please. But if lots of people have tuned out like I have, and there are only 1-2 people posting, then I’d say that’s to the detriment of the forum, and that’s when mods should probably step in to change the site dynamic. (You know, make it more MODERATE. It’s in the job description.) 
(God I hope I don’t regret stepping into this… Oops. Now I’ve added an ellipsis, which will enrage some people!)
Yes, moderation in all things. If in doubt about what to post, you can always ask yourself, “what would Jesus do?”
Well, Fred I think you are taking all this too personally.
I temped your post because I wanted to make it clear that that thread does not belong to you. Let other posters have a say.
If you think I am a bad mod, well I understand why: it’s because I won’t let you take over the thread as your own property.
I have not used my moderator’s powers to influence the content of the debate, only the way in which you do so. Look at your last series of posts: one after another after another, with the typical personal attacks. Both multiple posting (a form of spam) and personal attacks are against the rules. So you are breaking the rules, and I am modding your responses. So what do you do? Do multiple posts and then personally insult me. :homer:
I think you are angry now, so please take a break and come back later. Again, I value your knowledge but your posting style is becoming increasingly problematic.
I have absolutely no opinion on this but it makes me laugh when Fred mentions his invites to join Taiwanease. It’s hardly much of a threat is it? I’ll take my schtick next door where no one will dare mod me…
I, for one, am glad that Mr. Smith has been given his ‘come-uppence.’
His continued domination of threads by way of logic and facts add little to the standards sought by the board.
How can he plead other than guilty when faced with the feelings of those whose solemn effort has been to maintain the continued standards that are deemed appropriate for consumption by the masses.
Let us all join hands, do call & response chants as we echo the mantra of the truly progressive!!!
[quote=“TainanCowboy”]I, for one, am glad that Mr. Smith has been given his ‘come-uppence.’
His continued domination of threads by way of logic and facts add little to the standards sought by the board.
How can he plead other than guilty when faced with the feelings of those whose solemn effort has been to maintain the continued standards that are deem appropriate for consumption by the masses.
Let us all join hands, do call & response chants as we echo the mantra of the truly progressive!!![/quote]
As I said earlier, the issue was one of multiple posting and personal attacks, combined with a certain intolerance for other points of view and a tendency to duel aggressively with other posters. If Fred can post within the rules and show some civility to other posters AND dominate the thread though logic and facts, he is welcome to.
Indeed. All mods need self-moderating, or at least a mod from another mod. That’s the way a squad works.
No matter how squalid the shite.
As for Fred’s motion to join Taiwanease: why not, I say?
It’s a great chance to read about those whingers over there whinging about these whingers over here.
While these whingers whinge about those whingers…
Other than that, lower one’s expectations:
takes a while to get goin’…
So…uh…you’re talking here about…“Fred Smith”…right?
Just seeking to clarify…wouldn’t want to confuse the target of this angst and come away mis-understanding anything.
[quote=“TheGingerMan”]Indeed. All mods need self-moderating, or at least a mod from another mod. That’s the way a squad works.
No matter how squalid the shite.
As for Fred’s motion to join Taiwanese: why not, I say?
It’s a great chance to read about those whingers over there whinging about these whingers over here.
While these whingers whinge about those whingers…
[/quote]
yeah but…it’s the same whingers and its the same mods… :roflmao:
Perhaps I should mod IP. I have no political opinions I’d bother to argue for or against, and zero tolerance for a$$holes. How do you think that would work out, y’all? 
I like it.
+1