MOI demands end to Chinese Communist groups on Taiwan

Interesting article from todays, 08 Jan 2005, Taiwan News.
It seems the MOI is for an end to an active branch of the PRC’s communist party here on Taiwan.
Is this real news to anyone? How much weight does this edict carry? How active was this group?

[url=http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/Politics/2005/01/08/1105153647.htm]MOI demands end to communist operations
2005-01-08 / Taiwan News, Staff Reporter / By Tsai Ting-I[/url] <–clickable link to article

The Ministry of Interior demanded that an active branch of China’s Communist Party based in Taiwan dismantle its operations before next Wednesday, citing current regulations that deem promoting communism in Taiwan illegal.

In a document issued to the party’s Taiwan branch on December 31, the MOI stated the branch would be fined as much as NT$60,000, if it fails to comply with the demand within seven days of receiving the document. Furthermore, the office’s staff could be detained for up two years, if they ignore the government’s request and remain in operation.

The Chinese Communist Party’s Taiwan province working committee publicly advertised for the services of a female secretary early last month.

Dai Chung, the office’s secretary-general, said that he does not think the government has the right to force his office to close since it is not even registered officially as a party operation. (excert from article)

And there goes freedom in action

The Chinese Communist Party has no branch in Taiwan, and has no intention to open one, since to do so would conflict with its policy of “one country. two systems”. Mr. Dai’s organisation is not affiliated to the CCP.

There is another communist party based in Tainan that was set up several years before Dai’s group. The way the then KMT government chose to deal with it was not to allow it to register as a legal political party, but not to disband it or punish its members, either. Since the party could not register, its chairman stood in elections as an indepedent.

I do think it ironic to see the DPP administration trying to enforce oppressive KMT laws from the martial law era ([url=http://tw.forumosa.com/t/interfering-in-another-countrys-internal-affairs/1468/1 the first time[/url]).

Someone should tell Comrade Dai that sex discrimination in employment goes against the principles of communism.

Does Comrade Juba want the job? :wink:

So there are limits to Taiwanese democracy. I agree with Juba, the irony that the DPP is doing this … heh.

Truly ironic a barely operational office is a political target on Taiwan, yet we allow FLG to do as they please on Taiwan.

Sick indeed, ROC has become with DPP leadership.

[quote=“The Taiwan News”]The Ministry of Interior demanded that an active branch of China’s Communist Party based in Taiwan dismantle its operations before next Wednesday, citing current regulations that deem promoting communism in Taiwan illegal.[/quote][quote=“The Taiwan Association for Human Rights”]The Constitution provides for freedom of speech and of the press, and the authorities generally respect these rights in practice. A 1998 Council of Grand Justices decision invalidated a statute prohibiting the advocacy of communism or the division of national territory, which previously had circumscribed these rights formally, although the statute

We’ll see how all this plays out

The reason the MOI was quoted as saying it was closing a branch of the Chinese Communist party is because the Chinese name for this organization is Zhongguo Gongchandang Taiwansheng Gongzuo Weiyuanhui 中國共產黨台灣省工作委員會.

Furthermore, he has claimed he had Beijing’s official backing. He was featured in a Nov. 2000 People’s Daily article as well.

Although this hardly seems arrest worthy, it’s suddenly looking like a little bit more than some crazy guy.

I was seeking a picture of Comrade Dai Chung (戴忠) because I met a guy in Taipei who claimed to be the “chairman” of the Taiwan Communist Party. He was an interesting guy, and I was involved in a number of fun discussions with him including one with two Israelis about the Israel-Palestine conflict, and one with a Marxist Frenchman over the so-called “Communist” regimes. I believe he could speak some Anhui dialect his parents spoke.

On his darker side, a mutual acquaintance heard this guy openly say he had used money funneled by the CCP to fund some of the anti-Iraq war activities in Taiwan.

But alas, these are two different communist organizations.

I wonder if this is political payback by Taiwan for the rejection of Mayor Ma’s visa to HK.

First off the guy if being fined $60,000 NT. So the gravity of the crime is not that grave. Greater than illegal parking, but still less than illegal dumping or illegal cable station broadcast.

Also if you start banning this political party, which party is next, those that members have traveled to PRC and had chance encounter with CCP members on the mainland.

zhujianlun -
Well reasoned argument.
In the imperfect adolescent free democracy that is currently Taiwan it is a mistake to think that mistakes will not be made. Add to that the rampant corruption that seems to be a requirement of politicians here and you have a “fertile” environment for political faux pas.
As mentioned, interesting that the DPP is enforcing a law that the dreaded KMT deemed unneeded. But maybe the KMT decided the law was counter productive to their ‘Ultimate Agenda’ of world domination and unlimited gao liang!

Dai Zhong’s self-styled “Taiwan Provincial Committee of the Communist Party of China” has set up a web site at www.cccptw.org. Not much content yet, except for Chinese communist and patriotic music.

please, this is not Sweden. how many missiles have this guys’ buddies have pointed this way. the only stupidity was letting this situation continue until now, even if it is only a speck of a concern.

Some random reactions:

(1) Why would the Communist Party particularly want a female secretary?

(2) Or were they perhaps seeking a General Secretary?

(3) How many Taiwan Communists are we talking about here? A dozen?

(4) Maybe they could work out a deal where Taiwan allows the Communists to operate here, in return for allowing Taiwan-based political parties to run in Chinese elections. That’d be fair.

(5) This isn’t that artist guy who parades around with the Chinese and Russian flags, is it?

(6) Maybe he’s like the Nepalese Maoists–he uses the name without permission from the CCP?

(7) If China took over Taiwan, who do you think they’d name as governor–this guy, or Ma Ying-jou, or some general from their side?

(8) Has he advocated violent revolution? Is there any reason to believe he will or would instigate violence? Maybe he’s more the democratic socialist type.

(9) Aren’t there any more pressing problems the government could be solving?

[quote=“Yellow Cartman”]So there are limits to Taiwanese democracy. I agree with Juba, the irony that the DPP is doing this … heh.[/quote]It is the current Taiwan law established by the China Nationalist Party (KMT) that makes this Communist party based in Taiwan illegal. It has nothing to do with the DPP. The DPP is only enforcing the laws, whether or not they are anachronistic in some people’s opinion. Others think the constitution is anachronistic as well as the name of the country, but we are stuck with these as we are stuck with this KMT law about Communist party offices in Taiwan.

For my personal opinion, I am glad to see them go. I have seen what I assume was this aforementioned Communist Party drive though the streets of Taipei flying the Communist China flag. Kind of sick and in my opinion on par with flying a Nazi flag in Isreal.

Again, this is not about freedom or the DPP. It is about anachronistic laws, just like the anachronistic Taiwan flag, anthem, name of the country and the constitution. It is all part of the negative side to the KMT colonization of Taiwan. Time for the next generation of KMT to make some serious changes in the name of reconciliation.

Communists. :unamused: Simple. Round them all up and tell them they have 24 hours to get out of Taiwan. If they are still here after 24 hours, they will be publically executed. One shot to the back of the head. And their families will be billed for the ammo used.

When you find something that works you like to stick with it, eh?

Can I get a concession on salvagable body parts?

[quote=“Hobart”]It is the current Taiwan law established by the China Nationalist Party (KMT) that makes this Communist party based in Taiwan illegal. It has nothing to do with the DPP. The DPP is only enforcing the laws, whether or not they are anachronistic in some people’s opinion. Others think the constitution is anachronistic as well as the name of the country, but we are stuck with these as we are stuck with this KMT law about Communist party offices in Taiwan.

[SNIP]

Again, this is not about freedom or the DPP. It is about anachronistic laws, just like the anachronistic Taiwan flag, anthem, name of the country and the constitution. It is all part of the negative side to the KMT colonization of Taiwan. Time for the next generation of KMT to make some serious changes in the name of reconciliation.[/quote]

First, didn’t you see Juba’s post that the law banning Communist party activities in Taiwan was abolished in 1998? Second, does everything have to be about “name reconciliation” and a new flag for you? Sheesh … :unamused: