Most and least useful degrees


#41

I imagine law school is not easy too. You have to even pass an exam.

To be honest, the only jobs that care about your degree are jobs in academia, science related or something that you need to pass a bar or exam.

In OP situation, it seems that his eyes are set on operating or managing sports events or gym or something similar. With this, I think you should focus on what you want to manage since I do think management/operation can be learned through experience and not so much with theories and school. So maybe sports science is still beneficial.

If I were in your situation, I would have not turn down the offer in China. It sounds like the job you want to be in.

A lot of fitness industry relies on social media now. So an expertise or know how on that area can help your business. You might enjoy managing sports celebrities or perhaps hone one into.

But again, you need to sit down and think what makes you happy. I can assure you that if you all care about profits and money (unless thats your passion), then you wont be truly happy - you will always want out and do something else.

Congratulations on engagement btw.

Having said that, maybe it is best for you to talk tl your bride to be since she will be with you in the future. You might be even interested in building it together… who knows. I know a number of couples who build their careers together and they doing good. My former boss and his wife have different science labs but complement each other; thus help publications. My coach and his wife do online coaching together.


#42

Yeah the bar exam is usually a nightmare. It’s either extremely low admission rate that you’d be guaranteed a job (like Taiwan) or extremely high admission rate that it means nothing more than a piece of paper (ie the US).


#43

Actually lets make this simple.

Do you even like attending school? Do you like attending lectures? Do you like working on assignments, essays, reports?

If no, then, forget about getting degree and find ways to get real life experience.


#44

I always view law as country specific. If you plan on being international, I doubt you will be successful.


#45

If I was taller and more good looking and charismatic, I would do this and just get all the $$$$$. Unfortunately my instagram has peaked so that actually says something.


#46

Hate to pop the bubble - the global economy is now “Skills-Based”! Companies are moving away from throwing the dice on someone who just followed the rules, paid the tuition, and managed to get the piece of paper, BUT still need to be trained. Employers now look for people who HAVE the skills - and exhibit them (i.e. personal brand), to solve their problems. I’d suggest you concentrate on some marketable skills rather than a degree.


#47

Yeah it is very country-specific, but there are posibilities of having an international career as well (and it’s by far the most well-remunerated), it’s just that you still need to start from the basics, aka going to law school/college with 18 year-olds.

American law school would be a good idea if it weren’t for the tuition fees. Graduates spend like 10 years repaying the loan and by that time Andrew would be 40.

Sounds like the OP. According to him he’s 190 and good-looking and ripped and shit. That’s why I suggested streaming.


#48

100%

I see a lot of fresh grads bitching about they cant get work because they dont have experience.

Had I not been lucky to get an actual hans on research experience in my current field, I won’t be able to apply and get my PhD, and postdoc positions.

So experience matters a lot. Companies dont like spending on training you or wasting time preparing you. You have to be useful on day 1. The only way to do this is internship or work for free or shadowing.


#49

Unless he has a photographic memory then he can get around this and be a faux lawyer :joy:

He wants quick money so yeah go and stream. I’ll do it myself but I might end up in midget porn.


#50

:rofl:


#51

I like it… a lot of money can be had utilizing niche marketing!


#52

Perhaps Andrew can start making money by marketing me. Who knows that’s his calling and career.


#53

I’d be more interested in his perspective on life than his advice about university, then.

What you study may not be as important as what you actually do for a living. Asking and answering hard questions about yourself, your goals, aspirations, etc., is wise because knowing the answers to those questions will make you happiest.

For example, if you see yourself in 2045 with grown kids who will need financial help then you’ll need bucks or you’ll be unhappy. Plan accordingly. If you see yourself in a relationship where you travel lots in later life - and you don’t want to scrimp - then you’ll need bucks or you’ll be unhappy. Plan for it. I doubt this is news to you, but it’s pretty hard to overstate how important this can be for high-achieving people.

Even though he has no degree your pop might have great advice for you. You share DNA, after all. You don’t have to do what he says, but just talking with him can help. He might have invaluable insights for you, too. Definitely worth checking out.

If you see yourself actually using your degree, then maybe bite the bullet and go into medicine (you’d love it) or STEM. Law means less time in school than medicine, but along with investment banking the grind is harsh when you actually work in the field.

And don’t sell yourself short in the age department, either. Starting a brand new career even at age 40 is completely feasible. You have more time than you might think.


#54

I’m capable of being well connected to great lawyers around and have met many do to my relationships with one of the best in the world. They would be able introduced me to that circle.


#55

I would say making lucrative money is my primary goal. I’m used to a certain lifestyle by now and I’ve enjoyed doing as I pleased so far so it’s times to buckle down.


#56

I have a lot of work experience. I’ve been working in the office since I was like 16-22 for my dad in one of the biggest companies in Taiwan. I’ve also successfully ran a gym and became the head trainer as well. Managed big entertainment events and sporting events.

Experience is not an issue. I’m well spoken, educated and can brush shoulders with the elites with no issue. Personable and can hold a conversation with anyone, I like to learn all sorts of subject. I can talk and charm. Also not a bad looker with an interesting story.


#57

You don’t need school.

You need a job… I’m guessing?


#58

On one side you are saying degrees don’t matter and then you did a PhD…
Degrees matter in a lot of industries otherwise you won’t get past the HR department.
Also higher management they are often looking for MBAs from some ivy league school etc. In the place I work most of upper management have PhDs and MBAs.Thats the corporate world.
You don’t need to go down that route too much in sports world (even corporate although corporations want to see the basic degree ) I think.


#59

As Dawud said, there is no magic degree that will automatically bring you a good job. For a degree, follow your interests. Law is not a bad way to go. It impresses people (for the wrong reasons). Sounds like you’ll be working for yourself eventually. Nobody in Taiwan cares if you are smart,
anyway. Here you just play a role, no more no less. Then it’s all about getting along in the hierarchy. Nobody is interested in your degree. If I were young and ambitious, I’d look to e-marketing. Find something you can sell online.


#60

Then the actual degree you end up with isn’t important. Might be best to get a biz degree and move on, if it’s the straightest path between now and your “real” future.

I have an MBA that I would never have paid for out of my own pocket. Nothing but common-sense courses, no way they’re worthy of real study imo. There were exactly three courses that were worthwhile. Management econ, corporate finance, and (surprisingly) organizational behavior.

OB was possibly the best course I ever took in all my time at uni (and I can’t believe I’m saying this), mostly because of the personality testing that came as part of the course. I think Myers-Briggs Type Indicator is a test that’s out of fashion these days, but I learned a ton about me by taking it. If you do end up taking biz classes in order to clear university quickly, and if it’s possible for you, I highly recommend taking the MBA-level OB course as one of your electives.