The last time Trump won in 2016, a number of American Hillary voters claimed that they were “moving to Canada.”
I am just wondering how that worked out for them. Is Canada really better than the US?
A few considerations that I would have are:
Which would be better? America or Canada?
In terms of job opportunity, the US.
In terms of healthcare, Canada.
I would say in real terms, if you got a good job and high income, then healthcare in the US isn’t so bad, as you can afford it. It’s a bigger problem for those who can’t.
But Canada’s great if you just want to get away from people.
Not anymore, huge influx of people and boomer doctors retiring and post-covid backlog still not worked all the way down. Now it is basically impossible to get a family doctor for regular needs, long wait times for other things
The places with no people have fewer doctors and are further from medical facilities. Also fewer jobs…
Maybe better off coming to Taiwan to teach English then. Whatever happens to america, happens to Canada.
That seems to be the consensus for many.
I like the Alberta culture (or what little I know of it). Not sure I can really get used to the different varieties of Canadian accent though.
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I am just back from 2 weeks in Canuckistan, including a wedding in Vancouver. Taxes are slightly higher than in the US, with the exception of Alberta which doesn’t have a PST.
Cost of living is punitive. A good house in Vancouver is 2 million. On the Island 1 million or so. You have West Virginia salaries with California real estate. At least in BC. Rest of country is icebox. Sure, you can get a proletarian shoebox for cheaper, but why? Renting in Vancouver can be 3000CDN a month.
Weather is better than the rest of Canada in BC. But still rainy. Same as most of UK in coastal areas.
Culture—what culture? Canadian nationalism is based on what we aren’t (American), not what we are. This is no way to define a people. As my wife and other Asian extended family members say --“in this country, people are waiting to die.” The Grateful Dead have said something in their lyrics about " Such a long long time to be gone . And a short time to be there." Why would you want to spend it in Canada?
Healthcare—notorious. I thought healthcare in France or the UK had challenges but Canada is much worse. Even lots of upper class folk don’t have a GP.
Job market—very average and salaries are lower than US. I make 2X in a low cost part of the UK (Yorkshire) than what I was paid in similar positions in Canada.
Exchange rate—going down, down and down… now low 70s vs the USD.
Food prices ---- exploitative. Food court meal and three Orange Juliuses—80 dollars. My favorite Kombucha–10 dollars.
If you like lovely nature, dull people, wokeness on steroids thanks to Trudeau, fentanyl on every street corner, and out-of-this-world prices, it’s Nirvana. 
Overrated big time. Tim Hortons is a fitting symbol—celebrating mediocrity or less than mediocrity. 
There is a history of leftists Yanks moving here and not contributing too much.
Ah yes, Canadian healthcare. Where they ask if you prefer to die by assisted suicide instead of waiting 6 months for a MRI.
Comparing the US to Canadian systems is like comparing a diamond to a dingleberry.
Rent seems alright? Compared to Sydney or London anyway.
Very bare bones at that price. Anything decent, a lot more. And no where near Sydney or US or London City salaries.
Maybe this one depends on your social circles. For my money, the people in Canada tend to be far more interesting and outgoing than Taiwan. There’s also a lot of immigrants from other countries, do they all become auto dulled when they get to Canada?
I haven’t lived in Europe, but hung out with Europeans in Canada. In Taiwan, I don’t know anybody. It’s like everyone is waiting for their parents to die, so they can inherit that real estate money and start to learn what fun is 
If it weren’t for the immigrants, it would be 10X worse. I say that with a belly full of great Taiwan and Asian food after a week in Nanaimo and Vancouver. Even the sushi in Thrifty’s was so much better than the variants in the UK (awesome for South Asian curries, shite for Chinese of any kind). I find M&S grocery food to be far superior to anything supermarket Canadian-wise (often industrial tasting) but sushi is the exception.
But I think many Asians in BC find Canada super dull to a certain extent–“people are just waiting to die” is what I often hear. The wedding I attended was for my stepdaughter to a Taiwanese Canadian family. He mentioned his parents may go back to Taiwan at some point (they have a 4000 or 5000 sq ft house near Central Van) because they miss the buzz of Taiwan. A lot of Asians find Canada a great place to park wealth and educate kids, but to actually live? Unless you are into the mountain bike/climbing subcultures, or you grew up there and don’t know anything else (the Tim Hortons set). But those of us who have lived in other Asian locales, Taiwan, Europe and the Middle East? I love the topography, shame about lots of the people. I guess that is true in UK or France or wherever where there are lots of chavs/working class punks that are hooligans. But at least there are other cultures within an hour or two flight! In Canada you’re just in another Province with a farm and an outhouse, and likely one more parochial than BC (i.e. one where the @Rocket lives! )
Canada is too cold. That’s a deal breaker for me. Even Europe is too cold for me in Italy. I get a bad cough every winter from the cold air.
My goal is to make enough money to winter in south east Asia every winter. I can’t stand the cold.
Just in general, my experience with Canadians is that it would be like living in an entire country of insufferable, sanctimonious white liberals.
Canada might have to worry about all the potential illegals who might be thrown out of the U.S. under the second administration and where they could head to instead.
Minus Alberta! Cattle ranching and oil and gas ensure it doesn’t get too progressive.
Yeah, the noise and chaos factor is a lot lower
That’s why so many immigrants go to Vancouver and the island. Warm pacific air means it never really gets cold (but damp)
Stay away from the universities. It’s like the US, flyover areas full of farmers are conservative. Canada will almost certainly have a conservative government by this time next year
Fortunately, winter is coming
Or northern BC, or the east coast fisheries, or small town Ontario. Quebec is interesting, definitely worried about being a minority in Canada but less worried about minorities in Quebec…
More Vancouver. The island is still pretty “white bread.”
Weather wise, we were shocked having left the Island permanently in 2016 (albeit returning every year or two) how cold it was last week in comparison to Leeds in the UK and Bordeaux in France (where we now live). Cold, windy and rainy, and felt it immediately upon arrival.
Wife has no desire to go back permanently although with kids in Victoria and Vancouver, we’ll return from time to time. But culturally, even tweedy Victoria lost its allure to me. Urban sprawl, island progressivism and insane prices= no thanks.
We do like Nanaimo and have family there too, and enjoy the boating.
Can I trade place with you? I’m sick of the hot in Taiwan.
