I am English, currently living in the Uk and this year am marrying my my Taiwanese partner of 10 years this summer. I have just been told that I am being made redundant next April 2013 so we have decided that this could be the chance of moving to Taiwan to live. ( We were going to do this when our daughter reached 18, she is 10 now ). My partner has family all over taiwan ( and china ) and also has use of a flat in Taipei whoch is owned by the family.
I have many questions so sorry if they are elsewhere.
I am worried about finding work but my partner says I should have no problem. ( I speak only very basic mandarin and I will be 40 when we arrive. i have no degree and have been a Warehouse Manager of over 50+ staff for over 10 years ). What choices do I have. we would love to set up our own business but do not know what.
I do not particularly want to teach English, but am prepared to take a TESOL or CELTA. I have heard that as a spouse of a Taiwanese that I do not require a degree but I am not sure if this is true.
Schools. I know the european schools are very pricey, what other options do we have. My daughter speaks hardly any mandarin but I am arranging private lessons to get her up to speed.
4.How soon should I start applying for my aprc?
What other jobs relistically can I expect to have a chance with, taking into account my lack of speaking Mandarin.
I thank you all for your help and hopefully put my mind at rest.
I don’t know to much about work but you say you don’t have a degree whatever job you get you would be making 3x more with engrish. Looks like most expats live good with teaching engrish.
I have been looking to teach English but not having a degree probably ends that idea, hopefully other people can confirm whether I need one being a spouse of a Taiwanese. Also, do you need a degree for all teaching levels in taiwan?
As you will be getting an ARC based on your marriage to a Taiwanese, you will have open work rights. You can get a job teaching without a degree. You can basically do anything you want, workwise.
However, the school might have a policy to only hire those with degrees.
That being said, having a JFRV does have an advantage to the school in that they do not need to sponsor you, so it can cut both ways.
I am English, currently living in the Uk and this year am marrying my my Taiwanese partner of 10 years this summer. I have just been told that I am being made redundant next April 2013 so we have decided that this could be the chance of moving to Taiwan to live. ( We were going to do this when our daughter reached 18, she is 10 now ). My partner has family all over taiwan ( and china ) and also has use of a flat in Taipei whoch is owned by the family.
I have many questions so sorry if they are elsewhere.
I am worried about finding work but my partner says I should have no problem. ( I speak only very basic Mandarin and I will be 40 when we arrive. I have no degree and have been a Warehouse Manager of over 50+ staff for over 10 years ). What choices do I have. we would love to set up our own business but do not know what.
I do not particularly want to teach English, but am prepared to take a TESOL or CELTA. I have heard that as a spouse of a Taiwanese that I do not require a degree but I am not sure if this is true.
Schools. I know the european schools are very pricey, what other options do we have. My daughter speaks hardly any Mandarin but I am arranging private lessons to get her up to speed.
4.How soon should I start applying for my aprc?
What other jobs relistically can I expect to have a chance with, taking into account my lack of speaking Mandarin.
I thank you all for your help and hopefully put my mind at rest.[/quote]
I’d say the Morrison Academy is probably the English-only-instruction international school that’s the main alternative to TES. bethany.mca.org.tw/
There are some private bilingual schools here but your daughter would probably really struggle with learning enough Chinese quickly enough not to make a large part of her school day extremely boring for quite a while.
If you search under ‘schools’ in the parenting forum there have been a few discussions about this. I wouldn’t worry too much about your daughter’s Mandarin lessons if she’s going to be attending an international school. There are a lot of children here who speak little or no Chinese and they do fine.
[quote=“bigduke6”]As you will be getting an ARC based on your marriage to a Taiwanese, you will have open work rights. You can get a job teaching without a degree. You can basically do anything you want, workwise.
However, the school might have a policy to only hire those with degrees.
That being said, having a JFRV does have an advantage to the school in that they do not need to sponsor you, so it can cut both ways.[/quote]
[quote=“Petrichor”][quote=“bluenitsuj”]Hi all, newbie here
I am English, currently living in the Uk and this year am marrying my my Taiwanese partner of 10 years this summer. I have just been told that I am being made redundant next April 2013 so we have decided that this could be the chance of moving to Taiwan to live. ( We were going to do this when our daughter reached 18, she is 10 now ). My partner has family all over taiwan ( and china ) and also has use of a flat in Taipei whoch is owned by the family.
I have many questions so sorry if they are elsewhere.
I am worried about finding work but my partner says I should have no problem. ( I speak only very basic Mandarin and I will be 40 when we arrive. I have no degree and have been a Warehouse Manager of over 50+ staff for over 10 years ). What choices do I have. we would love to set up our own business but do not know what.
I do not particularly want to teach English, but am prepared to take a TESOL or CELTA. I have heard that as a spouse of a Taiwanese that I do not require a degree but I am not sure if this is true.
Schools. I know the european schools are very pricey, what other options do we have. My daughter speaks hardly any Mandarin but I am arranging private lessons to get her up to speed.
4.How soon should I start applying for my aprc?
What other jobs relistically can I expect to have a chance with, taking into account my lack of speaking Mandarin.
I thank you all for your help and hopefully put my mind at rest.[/quote]
I’d say the Morrison Academy is probably the English-only-instruction international school that’s the main alternative to TES. http://bethany.mca.org.tw/
There are some private bilingual schools here but your daughter would probably really struggle with learning enough Chinese quickly enough not to make a large part of her school day extremely boring for quite a while.
If you search under ‘schools’ in the parenting forum there have been a few discussions about this. I wouldn’t worry too much about your daughter’s Mandarin lessons if she’s going to be attending an international school. There are a lot of children here who speak little or no Chinese and they do fine.[/quote]
That school looks good but are there such schools which are not mainly american taught,( nothing against americans ) are there any english curriculum schools?
That school looks good but are there such schools which are not mainly American taught,( nothing against Americans ) are there any english curriculum schools?[/quote]
[quote=“bluenitsuj”][quote=“bigduke6”]As you will be getting an ARC based on your marriage to a Taiwanese, you will have open work rights. You can get a job teaching without a degree. You can basically do anything you want, workwise.
However, the school might have a policy to only hire those with degrees.
That being said, having a JFRV does have an advantage to the school in that they do not need to sponsor you, so it can cut both ways.[/quote]
If I get a JFRV, do I not need a aprc?[/quote]
You won’t qualify for an APRC for 5 years. You will get a JFRV. Both come with OWPs. You can get a job in a buxi with either, regardless of your lack of formal education. You will make better money doing that than anything else short of setting up your own business. Noodle stands can make 100K a month.
Quote" You won’t qualify for an APRC for 5 years. You will get a JFRV. Both come with OWPs. You can get a job in a buxi with either, regardless of your lack of formal education. You will make better money doing that than anything else short of setting up your own business. Noodle stands can make 100K a month.[/quote]
What is the difference between a APRC and a JFRV and if I had a JFRV would I need to get a APRC after 5 years. Also, what is OWPs. Sorry if I am being thick.
What is the difference between a APRC and a JFRV and if I had a JFRV would I need to get a APRC after 5 years. Also, what is OWPs. Sorry if I am being thick.[/quote]
JFRV means you are sponsored by your wife’s family. You get a divorce and it’s like being fired from your job and out you go.
APRC you control your own destiny, but must stay in country 183 days every calendar year. There is a one time exemption of what I believe can be up to 2 years. May be more???
After 5 years of JFRV, you can apply for APRC, but why would you if you have a solid marriage? JFRV allows you to come and go as you please.
OWP is open work permit. You can work at 7 11 if you want.
What is the difference between a APRC and a JFRV and if I had a JFRV would I need to get a APRC after 5 years. Also, what is OWPs. Sorry if I am being thick.[/quote]
JFRV means you are sponsored by your wife’s family. You get a divorce and it’s like being fired from your job and out you go.
APRC you control your own destiny, but must stay in country 183 days every calendar year. There is a one time exemption of what I believe can be up to 2 years. May be more???
After 5 years of JFRV, you can apply for APRC, but why would you if you have a solid marriage? JFRV allows you to come and go as you please.
OWP is open work permit. You can work at 7 11 if you want.[/quote]
Thanks Toesave
Is an OWP a seperate thing to a JFRV, or is a JFRV used as am OWP?
IGNORE: Just re read and you have already answered that question.
That school looks good but are there such schools which are not mainly American taught,( nothing against Americans ) are there any english curriculum schools?[/quote]
As Tomthorne says, only TES. There are far more Americans than British in Taiwan. I’ve been here eight months and haven’t met a single other Brit face to face. (I heard a British accent once at a foreigners picnic and it was quite discombobulating.)
When is the best time to apply for a JFRV, we are getting married in August, I presume we will have to register our marriage in taiwan, then apply for a JFRV. Can we not apply before we go next summer, and if we have to apply only when we get there, am I unable to work until I get it, or is there some sort of temporary work permit/visa that I should use.
There is no temporary permit. Registering your marriage in Taiwan requires a lot of paperwork and usually takes time. You need to read around these fora–all the information on marriage is here.
Have you been to Taiwan? I love living here, but it can be a bit of an adjustment for some people–especially people who moved here to be with their Taiwanese partner since their connection to Taiwan is only through their partner. Most ‘trailing’ partners don’t seen to do well here. Of course I know some who have thrived and I hope you are one of them.
There is no temporary permit. Registering your marriage in Taiwan requires a lot of paperwork and usually takes time. You need to read around these fora–all the information on marriage is here.
Have you been to Taiwan? I love living here, but it can be a bit of an adjustment for some people–especially people who moved here to be with their Taiwanese partner since their connection to Taiwan is only through their partner. Most ‘trailing’ partners don’t seen to do well here. Of course I know some who have thrived and I hope you are one of them.
Good luck and welcome![/quote]
Hi Feiren,
Yes I have been to taiwan, my third time was back in February. I met my to be wife in England when she was studying to learn English over 10 years ago, she now speaks fluent English with no accent! I absolutely love Taiwan, from the buzz of the markets and nightlife to the quiet villages down south. My fiancee’s family are all over Taiwan and are extremely welcoming ( even though there is the language barrier ). Her brother is the nicest guy I have ever met, there is nothing he would not do for you. My main worry is finding a job, my fiancee should not have any trouble as her family own several large businesses throughout Taiwan, and we shall hopegully get them to put a word round to find any work going.
The reason for our move is because I am being made redundant next April so thinking of the phrases " You only live once" and " things happen for a reason " we have decided now is the time to give it a go.
Nothing more to add than I hope you have a good time! I’m English too (and have a long-term Taiwanese partner). Never lived in Taiwan but I’ve visited quite a few times, and I agree, the Taiwanese are unshakably helpful in every way.
What is the difference between a APRC and a JFRV and if I had a JFRV would I need to get a APRC after 5 years. Also, what is OWPs. Sorry if I am being thick.[/quote]
JFRV means you are sponsored by your wife’s family. You get a divorce and it’s like being fired from your job and out you go.
APRC you control your own destiny, but must stay in country 183 days every calendar year. There is a one time exemption of what I believe can be up to 2 years. May be more???
After 5 years of JFRV, you can apply for APRC, but why would you if you have a solid marriage? JFRV allows you to come and go as you please.
OWP is open work permit. You can work at 7 11 if you want.[/quote]
So how do you go from APRC to getting a Taiwan citizenship? Do you really have to renounce your birthplace citizenship in order to get a TW passport?
So how do you go from APRC to getting a Taiwan citizenship? Do you really have to renounce your birthplace citizenship in order to get a TW passport?[/quote] forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopi … 66&t=19697
