True. A man competing against another man could also get killed, as has happened.
Weight alone as a classifier will probably be phased out at some point. The whole idea of a competition is, generally, that people like having a reasonable degree of uncertainty and thus suspense. Whatever system they come up with ā density of this or that muscle group in a complex formula with weight and height, and so on ā if it results in matches people enjoy watching, why not give it a try? This kind of change wonāt happen overnight of course.
Btw you know there are people who donāt like the idea of their daughters (or granddaughters) doing x, y or z, even when boys arenāt involved at allā¦ even something as simple as climbing local trees freaks some people out. But you donāt want to be a micro-nanny-state, now, do you?
There are safeguards for fighters. Itās not a match to the death.
These things happen as kids. As Iāve mentioned, thereās been more than a few notable little league pitchers that are female. Puberty changes things. Even the best female pitchers canāt compete once boys hit puberty.
Itās never been used alone. Competitors have rankings. Youāre not going to put the number 1 fighter with someone random in the same weight class.
One of the beauty of sports is the intangibles. Someone on paper could be the superior athlete, but something we canāt measure makes them the better competitor. I just donāt see the need to change the current system. If we were missing out on great trans athletes or female athletes, that would be another story. We arenāt.
The most dominant athletes I can think of, at least in North America are Jordan, Tiger Woods, and Serena Williams. In terms of their sports, Williams is probably the most dominant at hers.
If she canāt even be competitive against a 203 ranked man, what system are we talking about where itās more interesting? You want to put Serena Williams with unranked mens players and see if itās more fun?
The most dominant womenās World Cup team loses to 15 year old boys. Are we going to make them play 13 year old boys of equal ability to make this more interesting?
From what iāve seen discussed, weight is a problem in that people basically cheat by doing extreme weight cuts, then on the day of the fight they have blown up way past the weight limit, to gain an advantage. This should be sorted out, for fairness and for health. But other than that i think weight is a good measure.
You could be tall and skinny or short and stocky and both have great advantages depending on your style of fighting. It doesnāt make sense to match people up on being total 1 to 1 matches ā¦ now iāve read andrews comment and yea, what he said basically.
I donāt get it, either. The only way it makes sense is if you believe that there are no real differences between the sexes.
I have to wonder if anybody who thinks females vs males in combat, contact, and collision sports is a good idea, or something weāll see in a dystopian future, has ever participated in any of them.
Itās pretty nutty to think there is no significant difference. Personally I also find it borderline creepy to think that someday these sports will find some way to allow female v male matches. Seems to be nothing more than a gender equity solution in search of a gender equity problem.
This wouldnāt benefit women at all. Thereās not going to be mixed teams in the middle tier. Thereās probably not even going to be mixed teams at the bottom if it was coed. If teenage boys can dominate against the most dominant womenās soccer team ever, where is the average woman going to fit into this system?
Let womenās sports thrive on its own merit. I doubt most women would actually support getting rid of the current system.
This.
Womenās sports would thrive so much more if they focused on entertainment rather than being like the men imo.
We saw what the UFC could do with the womanās division by building up the hype of Rhonda Rousey and theyre a relatively new league. Thereās obviously a way for more people to want to watch womenās sports. I will watch womenās tennis but youāll never catch me watching the WNBA. They donāt know how to make a entertaining product.
Whatās wrong with it? Iām not a basketball fan either way myself, FWIW.
The rim is too damn high. You might not be a basketball fan but I bet you still get pumped up seeing a great dunk.
Every time someone tries to bring this up, WNBA players get really offended. They already use a smaller ball, so idk what the issue is with a lower rim. Womenās golf uses a closer tee box and volleyball a lower net.
And the jerseys are ugly. Even women think so if you ask them. Volleyball, tennis, and golf, all have ācuteā outfits.
I never really thought about it, but I actually donāt. It seems just kind of like showboating. If itās an effective way of getting 2 points, I get that.
I guess a basketball rim in parks and stuff is a fixed height, and thatās that.
Itās kind of the point in a way. A big dunk can really change the momentum in a game like a forced fumble.
Kids play on a lower rim. If there was a effort to change, the womenās game would be more fun imo.
But a forced fumble you have accomplished something. The dunk is only two points the same as any other two points. What do I know though. Iām sure there are many things about basketball I donāt understand lol. I liked playing as a kid though.
Also itās not just dunks. The big thing is it opens up a bigger pool of talent from a younger age. Thereās a lot of girls that quit playing or donāt play because they just arenāt big enough or strong enough to make a shot with a 10 foot rim.
Many of these girls are smaller but very fast and agile. They just arenāt big, strong, or tall. They can dribble, pass, play defense. But they canāt make any shots which ruins the game for them. Womenās basketball miss out on a lot of great athletes because of the 10 foot rim.
True, but (Iām being facetious) lowering the rim would definitely make the MtF players stand out (despite their obvious lack of physiological advantages) and would likely cause the gender equity in sports movement to lose face.
On a more serious note, when I were a young 20s hooligan type, we used to gather on winter Saturday afternoons to play a loose approximation of basketball called dunk ball. It was on a 9ft rim and power dunking was the name of the game. Less legit basketball, more full contact dunk ball, though.
Loose rules and loose teeth.
Yeah. And in the pool with pool basketball. You could glide in the air like mike in the pool for crazy dunks.
Height is too big of a factor with a 10 foot rim for women. Thereās just not that many women over 6 feet tall. I think the game would be more competitive if shorter women with the athletic ability to play were able to play with a 9 foot rim.
Why attack womenās sports?
What do you mean?