My Taiwanese husband wants to take my son from me. Please, I need your help!

Me and my Taiwanese husband want to divorce. We have a son, he is 1 years and 6 months old.
Now he is not staying at home, only sent me sms message that we will meet at the courtroom.
At the moment I stay with my son and my husband’s father.
I want ask my parents to buy me and my son a plane ticket go back to my country (by the way,
I have only my countries passport; my son has Taiwanese and my countries passport, but he was
born in Taiwan), but my husband’s father says that it’s his son too, so first he wants to talk to
him… But I’m sure my husband will not change his opinion.

I want to ask, do you know if I agree to the court, are there a big chances that my husband will
get the right to take our son?
And if I do not want go to the court, can someone force me to go there?
If I do not go to the court, and if I have a plane ticket, can me and my son leave Taiwan?

P.s. I’m 26 years old. I can’t speak Taiwanese and English is not my native language too.
I finished only high school. I live in a small town in my country. If I go back, I would stay at my grandmother’s
house. She and my mother said they will help as much as they can, and they would be very happy if we come back.
Both them have their own houses
I do not have a job in my country.

My husband is 21 years old. At the moment he words in Philippines, about the gambling (casino), at the office.
He finished only high school too.
Few months later he will go back to Taiwan and will continue the same job. His salary is 30.000 TWD.
He lives with his father (they rent a flat) And his father is 64 years old, he does a job on internet (at home)

I don’t know if this information will help and if it’s important.

I will be very very thankful for your replies.
I feel very bad, cry every day, don’t know what to do…
All I want is go back to my country with my son.
I even don’t want to divorce here. I want to divorce while I’ll be in my country,
even if it will cost a lot and will take a lot of time… I just don’t want to lose my son.

Please, I will be thankful for any information. Thank you.

don’t know enough to help, but here’s a similar thread, OP also the mother and the foreigner:
forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopi … 12&t=58994

and according to this article:
international-divorce.com/d-taiwan.htm

it seems like you should not attempt to take your children out of the country before custody is settled. You probably need a lawyer, others on the forum can refer one I suppose.

best of luck.

What is there to stop you leaving with your son using his passport from your country?

As far as I understand it, nothing. They will have no reason to stop you. You are not breaking any laws unless you have been served with court papers.

If you have not been served with court papers I suggest you leave as soon as possible.
It is extremely unlikely a court here will rule in your favor.

Can I ask, do you know if someone can force me go to the court? In the case if I do not want to divorce.
I plan to week 1-2 weeks later. Because my husband’s father said he wants to talk to my husband first. But he told me that even if my husband will not agree that I go back to my country with my son, he will help me go to the airport. My parents will send a plane ticket for me and my son.
What do you think, can my husband do something that later I would not be able to leave Taiwan with my son?..

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Can I ask what is “no-fly list”? How can he do that?
And maybe you know can someone force me go to the court, if I do not want to divorce?
I want to divorce after I go back to my country, because I do not want him to have my son…
He is in Taiwan for the moment, but few days later he will go back to Philippines.
Is it possible that he would do something, so me and my son can’t go back to my country?
By the way, my son have my countries passport too, and he used that passport when we
came to Taiwan this time.

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So, no one knows the answer?..

Buy plane ticket. Do not tell anyone. Try and leave. If it works good, if not you were just going for a vacation or whatever. A no-fly lust exists. Give them no reason to think you will leave.

And no, you cannot be forced to a divorce here unless you hit your spouse or is caught having an affair.

I don’t know if they would bother questioning you at the airport about leaving. But I would suggest getting round trip tickets just in case even though you don’t plan on returning. Also, if you’re living with the father’s father you’re going to need to be careful about your preparations and figure out how to slip away before setting off any alarm bells. I hope you have a good reason for taking his son away permanently. It’s kind of messed up thing to do to a parent. If he’s a class A prick and is trying to do the same to you I guess I could understand leaving

Hi GabiSi. First, a warning: People on Forumosa usually suggest kidnapping as the best way to deal with a problem. I strongly recommend AGAINST it.

If you have a little bit of money, try to find an English-speaking lawyer to consult with. Ask what the possibility is that you will lose custody over your child before you make any decisions, ESPECIALLY a decision as big as smuggling a child to another country.

Nope. Taking a child which you have custody over across borders is not illegal per se.

I have done it several times.

At least going home w kid and think is a good thing.

Guys, isn’t this the same person that used to post in rainbow color letters? The one you all warned about where this was headed to and now we see it has already gotten there?

Yep same person.

Oh.

[quote=“Mr He”]Nope. Taking a child which you have custody over across borders is not illegal per se.

I have done it several times.

At least going home w kid and think is a good thing.[/quote]

Yes but she’s not planning on bringing him back. The father would lose his child, which means she would be causing him the exact pain that she fears he will cause her. That doesn’t sound like an optimal solution.

“My Taiwanese husband wants to take my son from me”

  1. He is the son of both of you.

  2. From what you wrote on Forumosa it seems like YOU are the one who wants to abduct a child.

Common, your husband may only make 30,000 NT but at least he has a job. You admit that you have no work in the Philippines. And -no offense - I can only imagine what these “houses” of your relatives look like. What kind of a life do you plan to offer your child in Da Pilipins as compared to affordable NHI healthcare, free public schools and drug-free safe neighborhoods in Taiwan?

I seriously hope someone stops you from taking that child out of Taiwan, abduction is a felony after all.

The father is 21 and wanting the divorce. The chances are the ex wife will be FORCED TO LEAVE Taiwan as her reason for being here, which is marriage, is finished. We all know the ducked up immigration laws here, especially when it comes to South East Asians.

Looks like the father is trying to duck her over. A preemptive strike is in order.

And to make a negative comment about how her relatives live in the Philippines is ridiculous. You have no idea of their situation.

[quote=“bigduke6”]The father is 21 and wanting the divorce. The chances are the ex wife will be FORCED TO LEAVE Taiwan as her reason for being here, which is marriage, is finished. We all know the ducked up immigration laws here, especially when it comes to South East Asians.

Looks like the father is trying to duck her over. A preemptive strike is in order.

And to make a negative comment about how her relatives live in the Philippines is ridiculous. You have no idea of their situation.[/quote]

If I remember correctly, she’s from Ukraine, Russia, somewhere up in Europe, not Philippines. She said her husband works in Philippines.

You are mistaken. Unless she engaged in adultery she is safe from divorce. If she does not agree to a divorce, the husband cannot do anything. This means she can stay in Taiwan and keep her ARC as she is still legally married to an R.O.C. citizen. Unless she cheated and there is evidence such as a sextape or the police busting into the motel, she is safe.

The father is at least following the procedure of a legal divorce in Taiwan. What you call a “preemptive strike” is nothing but inciting the mother to commit a felony.

Why would she be afraid of the court? Unless she cheated on her husband and he has solid proof, she has nothing to fear. Yet from her posts it seems like she is trying anything possible not to appear before a divorce court.

Oh really? So you would say it’s better for the child to leave a country with a high standard of living, a low crime rate compared to the Philippines and proper schools as well as affordable healthcare and instead live in a 3rd world country (that by the way generates 1/3 of its GDP from OFWs) with an unemployed mother who on top of that will be a felon?

But then again you think it’s not a felony but a “preemptive” strike to abduct a child into poverty. Great respect for the law!

I do not have much respect for the law here, especially due to the fact that it is very selectively implemented at best, and 99.99 percent of the local population do not have much respect for it either.

Again, you are assuming that the child will go and live in poverty and squalor, simply because the mother comes from the Philippines. Nice!

Your thought process is pretty simple minded. Philippines=Squalor and Poverty.

There is also no guarantee that the mother will be allowed to stay, ESPECIALLY since this stupid spat Taiwan seems to be having with the Philippines at the moment. Another assumption on your part.

Lithuania. :doh: