# Naturalization questions **URL:** \ **Category:** Visa & Residency\ **Created:** [September 14, 2023, 8:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408 "2023-09-14T08:23:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![meishijia](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/meishijia/32/178949_2.png) [@meishijia](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/meishijia)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 8:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/1 "2023-09-14T08:23:41Z")
I’m applying for naturalization in November, and I have a few questions. I will ask the HHRO too, but we all know their answers aren’t to be trusted…. If anyone can share their knowledge, it’s appreciated. 1. What happens if a spouse dies or you get divorced when you have naturalized and have TARC but still don’t have household registration? 2. Before gaining household registration, a health check must be done. Are there any illnesses or diseases that can prevent gaining household registration? 3. If my naturalization is approved in January, and I don’t apply to renounce my original citizenship until November, will the receipt of the renunciation application be enough to apply for an extension? Or will the extension be denied because the reason for the delay is because I waited until November to renounce, and the delay is not because of high waiting times. 4. Following from the previous question, if my application for extension is denied and a year passed without my original citizenship renunciation being processed, what happens? Will my Taiwan citizenship be revoked? 5. Once my naturalization is processed and I possess an TARC, do I need to apply for any kind of permission to leave the country, since I haven’t completed the draft yet? Or does it not matter since technically I’m not eligible for the draft until I gain household registration? 6. Once I’ve gained household registration, do I need to apply for any kind of permission to leave the country, if I haven’t completed the draft yet? If so what is it and is it hard to get? ---
**Author:** ![justintaiwan](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/7ea924/32.png) [@justintaiwan](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/justintaiwan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 9:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/2 "2023-09-14T09:47:08Z")
> [@meishijia](#): > > - What happens if a spouse dies or you get divorced when you have naturalized and have TARC but still don’t have household registration? Nothing 🙂 When you establish household registration you just do it by yourself. > [@meishijia](#): > > Once my naturalization is processed and I possess an TARC, do I need to apply for any kind of permission to leave the country, since I haven’t completed the draft yet? Or does it not matter since technically I’m not eligible for the draft until I gain household registration? Nope, as you’re not liable for compulsory service, no questions asked. > [@meishijia](#): > > Once I’ve gained household registration, do I need to apply for any kind of permission to leave the country, if I haven’t completed the draft yet? Yes if you’re under 36 I’m interested to know the answers to your other questions though ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/3 "2023-09-14T10:11:00Z")
> [@meishijia](#): > > What happens if a spouse dies or you get divorced when you have naturalized and have TARC but still don’t have household registration? I don’t believe you can get a TARC through a spouse, so nothing will happen if they die or divorce you. > [@meishijia](#): > > Before gaining household registration, a health check must be done. Are there any illnesses or diseases that can prevent gaining household registration? Health check is not required for obtaining HHR. It is only required to obtain a TARC. The standards are probably the same as getting an ARC, but I don’t know what they are. > [@meishijia](#): > > Once my naturalization is processed and I possess an TARC, do I need to apply for any kind of permission to leave the country, since I haven’t completed the draft yet? Or does it not matter since technically I’m not eligible for the draft until I gain household registration? Not eligible for draft until one year after you obtain HHR. ---
**Author:** ![meishijia](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/meishijia/32/178949_2.png) [@meishijia](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/meishijia)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:14am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/4 "2023-09-14T10:14:47Z")
> [@user86](#): > > > [@meishijia](#): > > > > Before gaining household registration, a health check must be done. Are there any illnesses or diseases that can prevent gaining household registration? > > Health check is not required for obtaining HHR. It is only required to obtain a TARC. The standards are probably the same as getting an ARC, but I don’t know what they are. I believe it is part of the process, at least according to the government’s flow chart. ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/5 "2023-09-14T10:25:46Z")
> [@meishijia](#): > > I believe it is part of the process So you need two health checks? Because I know you definitely need one for TARC. I only got one. ---
**Author:** ![justintaiwan](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/7ea924/32.png) [@justintaiwan](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/justintaiwan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/6 "2023-09-14T10:33:02Z")
> [@user86](#): > > Health check is not required for obtaining HHR. It is only required to obtain a TARC. The standards are probably the same as getting an ARC, but I don’t know what they are. It’s the other way around. No need for health check for a TARC but needed for HHR ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/7 "2023-09-14T10:38:54Z")
> [@justintaiwan](#): > > It’s the other way around. No need for health check for a TARC but needed for HHR Interesting. I definitely submitted my health check when I was getting my TARC, not when I was getting my HHR a year later. ---
**Author:** ![tando](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@tando](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tando)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/8 "2023-09-14T10:41:43Z")
> [@meishijia](#): > > > [@user86](#): > > > > > [@meishijia](#): > > > > > > Before gaining household registration, a health check must be done. Are there any illnesses or diseases that can prevent gaining household registration? > > > > Health check is not required for obtaining HHR. It is only required to obtain a TARC. The standards are probably the same as getting an ARC, but I don’t know what they are. > > I believe it is part of the process, at least according to the government’s flow chart. if you need iy, what they check are here. > **[%E5%B1%85%E7%95%99%E6%88%96%E5%AE%9A%E5%B1%85%E5%81%A5%E5%BA%B7%E6%AA%A2%E6%9F%A5%E9%A0%85%E7%9B%AE%E8%A1%A8.pdf](https://www.immigration.gov.tw/media/73916/%E5%B1%85%E7%95%99%E6%88%96%E5%AE%9A%E5%B1%85%E5%81%A5%E5%BA%B7%E6%AA%A2%E6%9F%A5%E9%A0%85%E7%9B%AE%E8%A1%A8.pdf)** > > 1445.12 KB ---
**Author:** ![justintaiwan](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/7ea924/32.png) [@justintaiwan](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/justintaiwan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/9 "2023-09-14T10:41:55Z")
You entered on a Taiwan passport right? Maybe it’s cos we submitted a health check for our ARCs and TARC is more or less an ARC? Doesn’t explain why we need to do it when we get HHR though. I dunno, Taiwan never makes sense ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:43am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/10 "2023-09-14T10:43:12Z")
> [@justintaiwan](#): > > You entered on a Taiwan passport right? Yes, that’s required to live in Taiwan on a TARC. ---
**Author:** ![tando](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@tando](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tando)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 10:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/11 "2023-09-14T10:46:13Z")
> [@meishijia](#): > > if my application for extension is denied and a year passed without my original citizenship renunciation being processed, what happens? Will my Taiwan citizenship be revoked? the permission of your naturalization is canceled. ---
**Author:** ![tando](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@tando](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tando)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 11:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/12 "2023-09-14T11:02:46Z")
> [@user86](#): > > > [@justintaiwan](#): > > > > It’s the other way around. No need for health check for a TARC but needed for HHR > > Interesting. I definitely submitted my health check when I was getting my TARC different documents are requested for different situations. > [@user86](#): > > not when I was getting my HHR a year later. because you are a HK people. ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 11:23am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/13 "2023-09-14T11:23:43Z")
> [@tando](#): > > because you are a HK people. The Taiwanese government doesn’t know that. I obtained my TARC and HHR as a US citizen. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:35pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/14 "2023-09-14T12:35:56Z")
> [@user86](#): > > Health check is not required for obtaining HHR. When you move from TARC you have to do another health check before getting your HHR and ID Card. MOI only send registered letter to both applicant and HHRO after you have done the medical check to go to HHRO and get your ID card. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/15 "2023-09-14T12:36:52Z")
> [@user86](#): > > The Taiwanese government doesn’t know that. I obtained my TARC and HHR as a US citizen. So you renounced US citizenship of you got it through having ROC parents? ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/16 "2023-09-14T12:41:24Z")
> [@meishijia](#): > > I believe it is part of the process, at least according to the government’s flow chart. Perhaps different for those who naturalize through renunciation and those who do it from citizenship by descent through parents? I had to do medical before HHR and ID card were issued after I had lived in Taiwan on my TARC for one year. Others also. Can read it all in the citizenship thread. > [@How to get Taiwan Citizenship - Primer, FAQ, and Resources](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/how-to-get-taiwan-citizenship-primer-faq-and-resources/10835): > > If you want to become a citizen of Taiwan, the following may offer information that will be helpful to you: RESIDENCE: Many foreigners in Taiwan have residence in the form of an Alien Residence Card. This green colored card allows you to legally stay in Taiwan based on the fact that you have a legal job (employer is indicated on the card) or that you are married to a local. CITIZENSHIP: To be a citizen of Taiwan means that you have an actual ROC ID card. With this, you can get phone number… ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/17 "2023-09-14T13:09:00Z")
> [@anon24369109](#): > > you got it through having ROC parents? An ROC parent yes. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/18 "2023-09-14T13:12:21Z")
> [@user86](#): > > An ROC parent yes. OK your father then. Yes different from us who naturalize by renunciation. :rofl: :rofl: ---
**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 1:24pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/19 "2023-09-14T13:24:27Z")
> [@anon24369109](#): > > OK your father then. No, my mother. ---
**Author:** ![anon24369109](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@anon24369109](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/anon24369109)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/naturalization-questions/233408/20 "2023-09-15T00:19:51Z")
So you can’t be old then lol