# 🏀 NBA | Chicago Bull too woke? Waived/fired player for not liking LGBT people? **URL:** \ **Category:** Sports\ **Tags:** nba, woke, chicago\ **Created:** [April 1, 2026, 11:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825 "2026-04-01T11:02:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 11:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/1 "2026-04-01T11:02:14Z")
So should he be waived/fired because his beliefs didn’t align with their beliefs (Chicago Bull)or values? What do you think, can your company/boss do this? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/tG-ek9H7HpM/maxresdefault.jpg "Christian Athlete Jaden Ivey Gets RELEASED for Homophobia?!? | The Speakeasy REACTS") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tG-ek9H7HpM) ---
**Author:** ![ALL\_DAY](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@ALL\_DAY](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ALL_DAY)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 4:34pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/2 "2026-04-01T16:34:26Z")
Private companies in the U.S. are legally allowed to discriminate and fire workers for political views. In states with at-will employment a worker can be fired for any reason or no reason at all, and the burden of proof is on the employee to prove discrimination against a protected class (race, religion, religious creed, national origin, sexual orientation). So, at face value it’s difficult to say that this firing is unjustified (discrimination against religious belief) or justified (expression of a political stance/viewpoint). A look at the contract he signed will help illuminate if there are contractual breaches that occurred as a result of the firing and vice-versa. Most cases that SCOTUS has heard on this issue related to public sector employees and political speech [Janus v. AFSCME (2018); Heffernan v. City of Paterson (2016); Lane v. Franks (2014); and Garcetti v. Ceballos (2006)] In the ruling of Mahanoy ASD v. B.L. (2021) SCOTUS identified that a student’s off-campus speech - including social media posts - are protected _so long as it doesn’t cause substantial disruption_ (a bullshit wishy-washy cop-out by SCOTUS IMO). Insofar as Jaden Ivey is concerned his options for recourse would be the binding terms of his contract, the laws of the state of Illinois, and the National Labor Relations Act for relief in court. Barring those options he is S.O.L. without bringing his case to SCOTUS and achieving a favorable ruling that guarantees freedom of speech for private employees. ---
**Author:** ![bojack](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bojack/32/11772_2.png) [@bojack](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/bojack)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2026, 4:57pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/3 "2026-04-01T16:57:22Z")
The problem is similar to Colin Kaepernick’s. Like Kaepernick, Ivey used his position on a platform not owned by him (the team) to make negative generalizations about the league. In both cases it can be argued that both teams (49ers and Bulls respectively) and both leagues (NFL and NBA) are forced to use resources to mitigate any financial damage done. In both cases comments like these tend to split the fan base in half and pit one side against another. That’s about the last thing a team owner wants. There’s nothing _at all_ wrong with holding strong personal convictions and making them public. The problem is that sometimes the pushback can generate negative externalities that are left to the team and the league to resolve. In some cases (LeBron James comes to mind), the player makes public comments that align with positions held by the team and the league, and ownership decides no harm–\>no foul. Their prerogative as owners. Like Kaepernick and his situation with the 49ers and the NFL, Ivey should have found a way to speak out in a way that didn’t drag the Bulls or the NBA into a PR battle, or resign. ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2026, 3:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/4 "2026-04-02T03:28:27Z")
> [@ALL\_DAY](#): > > protected class (race, religion, religious creed, national origin, sexual orientation). > > So, at face value it’s difficult to say that this firing is unjustified (discrimination against religious belief) This! I wonder he can say what he said based on this? A note: season is almost done, I do wonder does he get his fully salary anyways? ---
**Author:** ![ALL\_DAY](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@ALL\_DAY](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ALL_DAY)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2026, 3:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/5 "2026-04-02T03:34:01Z")
That would have to be determined by the courts, and as for severance that would be detailed in his contract. ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2026, 3:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/6 "2026-04-02T03:38:06Z")
> [@ALL\_DAY](#): > > That would have to be determined by the courts, and as for severance that would be detailed in his contract. Found the answer: AI 摘要 Bulls news: Will Jaden Ivey receive full $10 million …Jaden Ivey is set to receive his full $10.1 million salary for the 2025-26 season despite being waived by the Chicago Bulls for “conduct detrimental to the team”. As of March 2026, his guaranteed rookie-scale contract ensures he is paid the remaining balance of his $32.95 million four-year deal ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 9:55pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/7 "2026-04-03T21:55:38Z")
I think the mistake was for the NBA to even have political or social stances. They have backed away from it themselves the last year or 2. It’s in our policy and employment contract to stay apolitical and away from social issues. I just tell my staff that we are a professional beauty supplier and the best way we can help the world is by doing our jobs well. Our clients are counting on us for their business. We aren’t going to change the world posting BLM ✊🏿 on social media. I find businesses trying to get social clout for stances really silly. ---
**Author:** ![ALL\_DAY](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@ALL\_DAY](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/ALL_DAY)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2026, 10:33pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/8 "2026-04-03T22:33:14Z")
> [@Andrew0409](#): > > I find businesses trying to get social clout for stances really silly. For many it was personal choice, for some it was a survival tactic, but there was also an enormous amount of corporate pressure to get on whatever bandwagon was supposedly popular or going to earn the company more money at the time. [https://archive.is/20250401001441/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmcgowan/2025/03/31/in-annual-letter-blackrocks-larry-fink-omits-climate-change-dei-and-esg/](https://archive.is/20250401001441/https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmcgowan/2025/03/31/in-annual-letter-blackrocks-larry-fink-omits-climate-change-dei-and-esg/) > **[Black-owned businesses across the country are putting up signs to show...](https://www.businessinsider.com/black-owned-businesses-put-up-signs-to-stop-looting-show-solidarity-2020-6)** > > In Chicago, Black neighborhoods were some of the hardest hit by looting and property damage related to protests over the death of George Floyd. > **[‘Black owned don’t loot:’ For some business owners, signs show solidarity —...](https://www.inquirer.com/business/retail/coronavirus-covid19-philadelphia-george-floyd-protests-black-owned-business-20200610.html)** > > “People are targeting property as a way to fight social forces," said Donna Murch, a Rutgers University history professor. ---
**Author:** ![UUN](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/50afbb/32.png) [@UUN](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/UUN)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 8:53am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/9 "2026-04-04T08:53:49Z")
Something similar but perhaps more egregious given the circumstances that happened a few years back: My (now former) Australian Rules football team the Essendon Bombers hired a new CEO. He was the retired CEO of one of the major banks, NAB, and was on the board of a church, City on a Hill. Shortly after his appointment someone on social media dug up a 10 year old sermon recording from that church in which homosexual activity and abortion were referred to as sins. He was dumped by the club less than 24 hours after his appointment as a result. It was guilt by association and it sent a pretty clear message. Though it was probably in part a knee jerk face saving exercise, and the club did apologise for their decision to terminate him, however that was only after getting their pants sued off. What I found most unimpressive of that debacle was the then state premier (Dan Andrews of covid lockdown and belt-and-road fame) coming out and himself saying the CEO should not have been appointed, and to call that church raging bigots; I have a cousin and several friends who attend and I can tell you they’re not. > **[Andrew Thorburn cancelled as Essendon CEO after 24 hours](https://www.afr.com/work-and-careers/leaders/andrew-thorburn-cancelled-as-essendon-ceo-after-24-hours-20221004-p5bn33)** > > Former NAB CEO Andrew Thorburn has quit as Essendon chief just a day after being appointed following a backlash over the beliefs of the church he also chairs. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 3:10pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/10 "2026-04-04T15:10:33Z")
So they’ll never hire a Muslim for the job. Interesting conundrum that one. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 4:55pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/11 "2026-04-04T16:55:03Z")
> [@UUN](#): > > guilt by association No, you say he was a member of the board presumably with some level of responsibility for the church’s actions. That’s not what’s typically called guilt by association. Not saying it was necessary right to fire him. ---
**Author:** ![bojack](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/bojack/32/11772_2.png) [@bojack](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/bojack)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2026, 9:42pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/12 "2026-04-04T21:42:58Z")
> [@Andrew0409](#): > > I think the mistake was for the NBA to even have political or social stances. They have backed away from it themselves the last year or 2. > > It’s in our policy and employment contract to stay apolitical and away from social issues. I just tell my staff that we are a professional beauty supplier and the best way we can help the world is by doing our jobs well. Our clients are counting on us for their business. We aren’t going to change the world posting BLM ✊🏿 on social media. I find businesses trying to get social clout for stances really silly. I imagine your advice to staff is good advice. Owning a business today has to be tough. Imagine being a beauty brand that took a pro-women-rights stance last century and sells their products at a premium. What are they to do with their brand investment in the face of the LGBT+ movement? I think that over the years, by giving its players lots of rope (to showcase personality or personal character or wokeness over championships) the NBA has choked out more of its audience than any other American pro sports league. Maybe they’ve finally decided the best way to help the world is by focusing on becoming the best basketball league in the world … but I suspect the jury is still out on that. ---
**Author:** ![UUN](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/50afbb/32.png) [@UUN](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/UUN)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 12:40am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/13 "2026-04-05T00:40:33Z")
You’re right that him being in a leadership position will create more of an issue in the eyes of those who disagree with it. However I disagree, because a church board/vestry etc is typically made of lay people and concerned with practical matters of running the church, not with its theology or teaching, and that it was simply his membership to that board as opposed to anything he’d said or done that caused issue ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 2:19am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/14 "2026-06-13T02:19:29Z")
> [@Brianjones](#): > > So they’ll never hire a Muslim for the job. Interesting conundrum that one. In Aussie or USA your talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2026, 2:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/15 "2026-06-13T02:45:37Z")
I’m talking about the NBA. Most Muslims are anti homosexual, it’s a core part of their religion. Many in the religion believe in physical punishment , prison or death for homosexuals. ---
**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2026, 3:23pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/nba-chicago-bull-too-woke-waived-fired-player-for-not-liking-lgbt-people/256825/16 "2026-08-01T15:23:18Z")
> [@Brianjones](#): > > I’m talking about the NBA. > > Most Muslims are anti homosexual, it’s a core part of their religion. Many in the religion believe in physical punishment , prison or death for homosexuals. There are some (maybe many?) NBA players that are Muslim, support GAY rights, like Abdul Jabbar. USA/Europe (ex Russia) is more open to it, than here in Asia (ex Taiwan, which seems very Gay friendly, seeing things at first shocked me a bit, got used it over time like two men kissing ha at a cafe) [https://www.espn.com/nba/story/\_/id/35602384/kareem-abdul-jabbar-life-social-justice-champion-record-no-athlete-break](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35602384/kareem-abdul-jabbar-life-social-justice-champion-record-no-athlete-break)