Never ever trust businessmen for tis businessmen who fcuked up this world with their greed

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If there is ever a piece of pristine forest land, businessmen from different industries will clamor for first dips on that piece of pie in order to secure their share of profits.

The lumbermen will fight for their right to grab the wood, the oil peeps will want to drill the land for oil, the real estate industry want to build a holiday resort on that land…

Matter of fact is, tis businessmen who are the most evil people on the face of this planet for tis businessmen who are born and bred TO STEAL THEIR OWN SHARE OF THE PROFIT!

Tis why the world is so fcuked up today because everyone, especially businessmen, want their share of the pie regardless of the suffering which their greed and selfishness will cause others.

What did Shylock from the Merchant of Venice teach us? That businessmen and merchants have no issues with cutting pounds of flesh from someone’s else hearts if that would entitle them to profits…

Never ever trust businessmen for tis businessmen who fcuked up this world with their greed…

In fact the more successful a businessman is, the less you should trust the businessman because the more successful a businessman is, the more adept he is at stealing and fighting for his own share of the pie.

Because of the nature of the game of business, only greedy and selfish humans who are adept at taking from others while giving very little in return are likely to succeed in this game.

This is why when there is a new world order, businessmen especially successful businessmen will be at the lowest rung of the pecking order.

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I am a business man, I give to others, I am environmentally conscious, and I’ve shared bread with homeless people and parent less kids…
Tell me how am I fucking the world up Sir?

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Yes, all the world’s problems come from businessmen and merchants. If only we could go back before the middle ages before all this merchant nonsense started to catch steam. In those years everything was perfect. We could have all our teeth rotted out by the time we were 40 if we were lucky enough to live that long. We would smell like hell and have leeches thrown on us when afflicted with little known illnesses. Maybe eat a potato with a squirt of buttermilk :eh:

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Business people created/provided your apartment, the clothes on your back, the food you eat, and the computer and Internet service you use to publish your childish notions.

Now say ‘thank you’ and pipe down. :laughing:

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[quote=“Pein_11”]I am a business man, I give to others, I am environmentally conscious, and I’ve shared bread with homeless people and parent less kids…
Tell me how am I fucking the world up Sir?[/quote]

Any tom, dick and harry can give to others and shared bread with beggars and orphans when they are rich.

Try doing that when you have nothing.

My OP wasn’t aimed at anyone in particular for I don’t even know you but I came from a family of businessmen so I know first hand how businessmen are like.

How are you fucking this world up?

By taking more for yourself and giving very little to other people.

How else are you gonna maintain your “profits”?

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I would trust English Teachers and Holiday Backpackers more than I trust businessmen.

At least English Teachers and especially Holiday Backpackers have purer motivations in their hearts than money grabbing businessmen.

What did I learn over the last 3 years? That greed and selfishness exist in the hearts of humanity regardless of race and nationalities.

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[quote=“Budda Boy”]
Any tom, dick and harry can give to others and shared bread with beggars and orphans when they are rich.

Try doing that when you have nothing.[/quote]

So … it is bad to be poor because you can’t take care of those less fortunate than yourself?

[quote=“Budda Boy”]By taking more for yourself and giving very little to other people.

How else are you gonna maintain your “profits”?[/quote]

Employees do this also, in fact more than ‘businessmen’. I take x from my university in order to teach the kids there and then I use this money to buy goods and services that cost less than my income. Businessmen do this also, but they take on more financial risk in order to potentially be ‘paid’ more.

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[quote=“Budda Boy”][quote=“Pein_11”]I am a business man, I give to others, I am environmentally conscious, and I’ve shared bread with homeless people and parent less kids…
Tell me how am I fucking the world up Sir?[/quote]

Any tom, dick and harry can give to others and shared bread with beggars and orphans when they are rich.

Try doing that when you have nothing.

My OP wasn’t aimed at anyone in particular for I don’t even know you but I came from a family of businessmen so I know first hand how businessmen are like.

How are you fucking this world up?

By taking more for yourself and giving very little to other people.

How else are you gonna maintain your “profits”?[/quote]

I’ve done it while having nothing, I’ve grown on the streets, do you think I was born with money or inheritance to build my own factory of my daily bread? Noup, I am as much as a laborer as a farmer. I am no Tom or Harry, but I can be a Dick. I maintain my profit by my own sweat, blood and tears, and I give to whom deserves.
About you being from a business family, No you are not, your train of thought is stuck in the 80’s, 90’s. Business is handled differently nowadays and Business men are not even called like that anymore, there’s tiers, which I am sure you know if you come from where you say.
You just can’t go there bashing out every entrepreneur that tries to make a living out there, specially with a fake Buddhist flag, people do what they do to survive, and not necessarily hurting others.
Are you familiarized with Indian markets? that’s small agriculture business from which families depend on, farming is the most basic form of business, so PLEASE with all due respect; don’t insult the way people win their daily bread, for they are no buddhist monks with a takuhatsu (beggar bowl) who can knock in doors for food offerings, don’t even know why are you doing such a thing in a Taiwan Ex-pat forum… you must be doing so much sitting there changing the world.

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Gotta go further back, before leech salesmen existed.

[quote=“Budda Boy”]I would trust English Teachers and Holiday Backpackers more than I trust businessmen.

At least English Teachers and especially Holiday Backpackers have purer motivations in their hearts than money grabbing businessmen.

What did I learn over the last 3 years? That greed and selfishness exist in the hearts of humanity regardless of race and nationalities.[/quote]

How about self employed English teachers, or eco-tourism guides who guide holiday backpackers for a living and help make sure they tread lightly and don’t destroy the environment on their backpacking trips?

Please post an honest list of the charity work you’ve done over the last week.

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Holiday Backpackers have the purest motivations of all.

For they are willing and able to live a life of poverty and instability …

to find happiness without the need for security, for much wealth, for stability…

Businessmen may complain about “financial risk”… about paying employees who do nothing while sucking away the bosses money… but at the end of the day, businessmen are all about making money and lots of it… the more money earned by the businessmen, the better it is for such businessmen to splurge their wealth on women, food, exotic holidays, etc…

while employees and the self-employed small businesses like cafe and eatery owners, mechanics, doctors?.. they are all about providing services to the public…

English Teachers and especially Holiday Backpackers who are reading this thread now… Let me salute you for your purity of heart… :thumbsup:

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[quote=“skoster”][quote=“Budda Boy”]I would trust English Teachers and Holiday Backpackers more than I trust businessmen.

At least English Teachers and especially Holiday Backpackers have purer motivations in their hearts than money grabbing businessmen.

What did I learn over the last 3 years? That greed and selfishness exist in the hearts of humanity regardless of race and nationalities.[/quote]

How about self employed English teachers, or eco-tourism guides who guide holiday backpackers for a living and help make sure they tread lightly and don’t destroy the environment on their backpacking trips?

Please post an honest list of the charity work you’ve done over the last week.[/quote]

Self-Employed small-time businessmen aren’t that different from employees. They are all about providing services to the public.

But what I really detest are those traders, manufacturers of goods, merchants including farmers who think they are allowed to make as much money as they want because everyone need their damn goods.

Fcuking farmers and traders!

The best charity work I have done is to take nothing from others! That is the best charity I have done and will ever do!

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When exactly did you take nothing from others?

This moment you’re using the services of those who created and maintain this forum.

I think you need to go find your cave, where you can truly stop taking from others, because as it stands you walk on sidewalks, sleep in houses, wear clothing, use electricity, don’t die from diseases because people work to limit their access to you, and just generally constantly use the services and goods of people you detest.

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As a former English teacher, school manager, university teacher, ELT book editor, yada yada, I’d like to offer the thought that there are few industries that are less dishonest, grasping and exploitative. Do you think education exists in order for the pure of heart to light the lamp of knowledge in the minds of the mendicant seeker? Because, um, it like totally doesn’t.

Do you know summin? By trolling this website, you are making money for the advertisers on this site, and the owners of this site. People you wouldn’t like much, if you met them. Would that silence you? I’m guessing not.

(Quote)Holiday Backpackers have the purest motivations of all.

For they are willing and able to live a life of poverty and instability …

to find happiness without the need for security, for much wealth, for stability…(Unquote)

Not middle class lotus eaters with nothing better to do?

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If you think English teachers all have pure goals, you really have not spent enough time at Taipei’s clubs.

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English Teachers or Teachers in general just want a monthly stable salary in the thousand dollar range so that they can have a comfortable stable life with their girlfriend, their family, their spouses, children or even have a fixed amount of pocket moolah to go pick up chicks at the local clubs if they are so inclined.

The businessmen want a monthly profit of millions of dollars and even billions of dollars so that they can acquire as much land and property as possible, so that they can buy as many cars as possible, so that they can maintain 100 mistresses and concubines at once (even if they do not have enough sperm in their testicles to feed so many pussies).

In short, the businessmen want to be kings even though they do not have the blood and genetics and heritage inherent in their genes to be kings. The businessmen and bankers wanted to conquer the world through commerce which is why they supported the system of democracy and free market as that was the only way to overthrow the rule of the monarchy and kings.

So who is greedier? Who is purer? The English Teacher vs the Businessman?

A company is nothing more than a mini feudal kingdom where the boss acts like the king and lives off the hard honest work of employees ie the “subjects” of the kings.

Just look at most companies nowadays. Can you point out any company at all where the company owner is seeking to create a business structure where the employees will earn more than the boss?

Of course not, all companies are designed to earn maximum money for the bosses and company owners/shareholders while the employees get paid as little as possible to guarantee the employees’ continual servitude.

The whole game of commerce, of business, of money is the sickest game at its core and it is a game which had retarded the evolution of mankind.

Just examine the chain of English schools for eg. English Teachers are paid hourly wages for entertaining the kids while the bosses/company owners get a cut of the fees for doing nothing.

Oh yeah, of course the bosses are going to claim they are entitled to profits for taking financial risk but let’s just call a spade a spade, wouldn’t we?

Bosses and Company Owners are leeches living off the sweat and blood of employees, period. No two ways around it.

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When exactly did you take nothing from others?

This moment you’re using the services of those who created and maintain this forum.

I think you need to go find your cave, where you can truly stop taking from others, because as it stands you walk on sidewalks, sleep in houses, wear clothing, use electricity, don’t die from diseases because people work to limit their access to you, and just generally constantly use the services and goods of people you detest.[/quote]

Am I taking any money from others?

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[quote=“Ermintrude”]As a former English teacher, school manager, university teacher, ELT book editor, yada yada, I’d like to offer the thought that there are few industries that are less dishonest, grasping and exploitative. Do you think education exists in order for the pure of heart to light the lamp of knowledge in the minds of the mendicant seeker? Because, um, it like totally doesn’t.

Do you know summin? By trolling this website, you are making money for the advertisers on this site, and the owners of this site. People you wouldn’t like much, if you met them. Would that silence you? I’m guessing not.

(Quote)Holiday Backpackers have the purest motivations of all.

For they are willing and able to live a life of poverty and instability …

to find happiness without the need for security, for much wealth, for stability…(Unquote)

Not middle class lotus eaters with nothing better to do?[/quote]

Are the advertisers and owners taking any money from me? I think not.

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When exactly did you take nothing from others?

This moment you’re using the services of those who created and maintain this forum.

I think you need to go find your cave, where you can truly stop taking from others, because as it stands you walk on sidewalks, sleep in houses, wear clothing, use electricity, don’t die from diseases because people work to limit their access to you, and just generally constantly use the services and goods of people you detest.[/quote]

Am I taking any money from others?[/quote]

Even worse; you are sucking their time in your attempts to gain attention for your nothingness. A real vampire.

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睜開眼 空氣在沸騰轉變
我突然 多了好多的體會
如果說夢想 醒來一捏就粉碎
世界就只是一層安靜的灰

曾躲在 幾十億人海裡面
因為愛 才能擠撞到前面
我要的不多 就幾分鐘的時間
讓我大聲說出心裡的感謝

愛 是我的第一站
愛 給了我方向感
愛 寸步也沒離開
陪我從模糊的地帶
走到陽光正在打亮的舞台

被雨淋過的勇敢
被你給過的溫暖
全都在

愛 未來的第一站
愛 教我把夢拉開
愛 要我抬起頭看
天空中最微弱的星
也有權利爭取最美的燦爛

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When exactly did you take nothing from others?

This moment you’re using the services of those who created and maintain this forum.

I think you need to go find your cave, where you can truly stop taking from others, because as it stands you walk on sidewalks, sleep in houses, wear clothing, use electricity, don’t die from diseases because people work to limit their access to you, and just generally constantly use the services and goods of people you detest.[/quote]

Am I taking any money from others?[/quote]

Yes. You’re taking their products and services which are merely money in a less liquid form.

Saying you’re not taking money from them is like saying it’s not stealing to snatch a cupcake and eat it because it’s food, not money.

It’s fine, I don’t think anyone begrudges you the bandwidth or the sidewalk space or the access to first world level disease control measures (well, some might), but it just strikes me as a bit odd and hypocritical to, without charitably contributing, use the products and services from people you detest because they’re greedy.

You’ll excuse me for the notion, but it appears that you spend a lot of time accusing other people of things of which you yourself are guilty. Perhaps taking some of the time you might otherwise spend castigating people for not following the path you deem correct and using it to reflect on why it is that you’re so vehemently angry might be personally profitable.