# New Economic Immigration Bill

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539>\
**Category:** Taiwan Politics\
**Created:** [September 7, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539 "2018-09-07T17:46:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![tando](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@tando](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tando)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/1 "2018-09-07T17:46:24Z")

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“The bill has been announced for public comments from Aug. 6 to Oct. 5, 2018 on NDC’s Public Policy Participation Platform.”

Notice of the draft “New Economic Immigration Bill”

> **[國家發展委員會](https://www.ndc.gov.tw/default.aspx)**

The Public Policy Participation Platform (in Chinese)

> **[預告 新經濟移民法 草案-眾開講-公共政策網路參與平臺](https://join.gov.tw/policies/detail/1b688f9c-5f05-47ce-ab56-10820643a38a)**

> [@Cabinet bill aims to attract foreign professionals](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/cabinet-bill-aims-to-attract-foreign-professionals/169399):
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> “The council would continue to evaluate the bill’s potential risks and effects, Lai said, adding that the Cabinet would ensure new regulations do not affect the salaries of Taiwanese.” [http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2018/05/16/2003693154](http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2018/05/16/2003693154)

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I found this is already posted, though, this bill could have a separate thread.

> [@The Employment Gold Card Super-Thread](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/employment-gold-card-for-some-foreigners/159653/370):
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> Notice there is [a new bill](https://foreigntalentact.ndc.gov.tw/en/News_Content.aspx?n=F0746484B877D582&s=6F043644773FA8B6) that will get voted in October. [Here the direct link to the pdf draft](https://join.gov.tw/attachments/62822ff9-7e37-4ef6-a27c-8a2ae4e1fb8e/download/New%20Economic%20Immigration%20Bill.pdf). I didn’t went though it, but here the introduction of the bill that feel like will make future applications smoother: The impact of Taiwan’s low birth rate and population aging is growing increasingly evident. The country’s working age population began to fall after reaching its peak in 2015. The total population is projected to start exhibiting negative growth in 2025, with the working age popul…

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**Author:** ![dan2006](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@dan2006](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/dan2006)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 9:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/2 "2018-09-08T09:03:22Z")

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"the Cabinet would ensure new regulations do not affect the salaries of Taiwanese.”

Oh don’t worry, white collar foreigners won’t be beating down the doors to come here and take away all the locals jobs. Even the locals don’t want them, they are all bringing their skills elsewhere where they get paid and recognized for a job well done .

Those of us that would love to stay here and be professionals in our field find it next to impossible.

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**Author:** ![dan2006](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@dan2006](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/dan2006)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 9:17am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/3 "2018-09-08T09:17:29Z")

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Reading through some of the submissions.  
First guys complains on and on that foreigners are just going to come here and leach off nhi. You mean like the old people who go every day to get their moneys worth? He ends by asking if then government has any brains in making this plan up and to use their brains… what a nice guy.

Another Jackoff suggests that the government should avoid allowing non nationality people citizenship.

Another says the population needs to go down. Read into that, he basically says we don’t need foreigners.

Yet another points out there are a lot of overseas Chinese that want to come in and should get priority over foreigners.  
Who was that they said the locals are all so friendly and white foreigners don’t face discrimination.?

The nastiest comment is from someone who asks why bad foreigners are coming here, and blames them for drug abuse, AIDS, beating local elderly, absenteeism, leaching off NHI  
I’ll post the text in Chinese so people can see how we are really viewed.

國家發展在質的提升, 而不是量的增加, 人口數減少, 對台灣的土地是有利的, 真的想對台灣這塊土地更加愛護, 就要想辦法提升人口的素質, 不要讓一些為非作歹的人留在台灣。滾回自己的國家!現在一堆外勞在台灣怠工, 虐待老人, 生產力沒有提升, 卻送不回國, 這個問題才嚴重。

留下好的人才是不錯, 但是爛人為什麼送不走呢?吸毒的, 怠工的, 染AIDS的, 故意來台灣用健保資源的…

Reading on there were a few nice submissions from people supporting foreigners but they seem to be outweighed by the racists… I really appreciate those people that showed support.  
What bugs me is not knowing which of the people smiling at me in daily life really.means it.

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 9:18am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/4 "2018-09-08T09:18:01Z")

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Next to impossible for a decent wage is correct.

I actually achieved that for the moment but the journey to it was too long and too difficult. Would never recommend to newbs.  
Also if you lose a decent gig it’s real hard to get another one.

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**Author:** ![SPQA](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/spqa/32/18343_2.png) [@SPQA](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SPQA)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 9:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/5 "2018-11-29T09:16:47Z")

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Just approved by the Executive Yuan today - will now head to the Legislative Yuan for review and voting

> **[政院通過新經濟移民法草案 學者擔心國人薪資 - 華視新聞網](https://news.cts.com.tw/cts/politics/201811/201811291944462.html)**
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> 行政院會今(29)日通過國家發展委員會擬具的《新經濟移民法》草案，送立法院審議。 行政院長賴清德表示...

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**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/6 "2018-11-29T10:00:16Z")

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One thing they are right: there is indeed a number of people leeching off the NHI, using it in spite of not living in Taiwan nor having contributed/contributing to the syystem. Surprise, surprise, they are those Overseas compatriots who have both ROC and foreign passports. It is actually impossible for a foreigner to suck off the NHI, can’t even abscond with the bill.

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**Author:** ![overnightoats666](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/overnightoats666/32/35243_2.png) [@overnightoats666](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/overnightoats666)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/7 "2018-11-29T10:10:59Z")

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> [@dan2006](#):
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> blames foreigners for leaching off NHI

imagine actually believing this

![image](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/images/transparent.png)

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**Author:** ![OysterOmelet](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/oysteromelet/32/219695_2.png) [@OysterOmelet](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/OysterOmelet)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/8 "2018-11-30T08:06:00Z")

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I’m a dual citizen. When I was 8n Taiwan. I had t pay out of pocket.

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**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/9 "2018-11-30T08:55:10Z")

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Thank you for paying. A lot unfortunately don´t… and like to brag about it.

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**Author:** ![owleyes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/owleyes/32/135221_2.png) [@owleyes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/owleyes)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 1:18pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/10 "2019-02-22T13:18:37Z")

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Anyone knows where to find the exact contents of the draft bill? Is it going to have a change for APRC holders who got APRC though marriage ARC minimum in country days count (not requiring the 183 days/year anymore)?

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**Author:** ![tando](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@tando](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tando)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/11 "2019-02-22T13:48:35Z")

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This may be still the newest?

1071214-New Economic Immigration Bill

- [pdf](https://ws.ndc.gov.tw/Download.ashx?u=LzAwMS9hZG1pbmlzdHJhdG9yLzExL3JlbGZpbGUvMC8xMjIyNi9iOWNjMGI4Mi1jZTQ2LTQ1NDktOGIyYS0xMjY5MjNjYWM2NDgucGRm&n=MTA3MTIxNC1OZXcgRWNvbm9taWMgSW1taWdyYXRpb24gQmlsbCjnhKHmqJnoqJgpLnBkZg%3d%3d&icon=..pdf)

from here  
[https://www.ndc.gov.tw/en/Content\_List.aspx?n=999F9864EFDB5F6F](https://www.ndc.gov.tw/en/Content_List.aspx?n=999F9864EFDB5F6F)

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**Author:** ![owleyes](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/owleyes/32/135221_2.png) [@owleyes](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/owleyes)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/12 "2019-02-22T17:11:21Z")

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Thanks @tando

As far as I can see the relaxed 183 days rule is only for foreign professionals. I am guessing people who got their APRC based on marriage (even though they are professionals here) would not fall into that category, meaning still need to stay 183 days/yr under the current regulation.

I hope the new one gets released soon 🙏

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**Author:** ![fifieldt](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/fifieldt/32/176346_2.png) [@fifieldt](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/fifieldt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 12:49pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/13 "2019-06-05T12:49:44Z")

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As best I can tell, it looks like this session of the legislature has closed without passing this bill. At least, the session is closed and the last update on the bill online was 3 weeks ago.

The next session opens September 1.

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**Author:** ![SPQA](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/spqa/32/18343_2.png) [@SPQA](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SPQA)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/14 "2019-06-05T13:15:15Z")

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You are probably right, the extraordinary session does not appear to have this bill as a priority

> **[立院臨時會執政黨7案將闖關 政院全力拚經濟 - 政治 - 自由時報電子報](https://m.ltn.com.tw/news/politics/breakingnews/2808957)**
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> 立法院第9屆第7會期昨晚休會，民進黨立院黨團經與行政院初步討論，規劃由黨團連署於6月17日召開臨時會，盼三讀通過公投法修法並通過4席大法官提名人選的同意權任命、以及三讀通過包括「境外資金匯回管理運用及課稅條例草案」在內的5項拚經濟法案，至少將有7項議案將在臨時會闖關。據悉，這5項拚經濟法案包括「產業創新條例部分條文修正草案」、「境外資金匯回管理運用及課稅條例草案」、「工廠管理輔導法」的修法以及「所得稅法」訂定長照扣除額的修法，以及「海關進口稅則」部分稅則修正草案。

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**Author:** ![SPQA](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/spqa/32/18343_2.png) [@SPQA](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SPQA)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/15 "2019-06-05T13:22:26Z")

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In English…

> **[DPP aims to pass legislation during provisional session - Taipei Times](https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2019/06/03/2003716253)**
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> The Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) plans to pass six pieces of legislation, including a draft foreign repatriation management and application act, and approve the nomination of four grand justice candidates in a proposed provisional legislative...

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**Author:** ![tando](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@tando](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tando)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 4:57am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/16 "2019-07-31T04:57:26Z")

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> **[梅花卡沒人要…我投資移民 10年只19件 | 聯合新聞網](https://udn.com/news/story/7238/3956347)**
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> 我國自二○○九年起推動投資移民梅花卡，外籍人士符合一定條件，即可申請梅花卡獲得永久居留權，不過，立法院預算中心研究指出，台灣相較新加坡、日本、南韓等鄰國的投資移民門檻低，但推動十年來僅有十九件申請通過，甚至在二○一四、二○一五、二○一九年（截至四月底）皆無人申請。

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**Author:** ![Noel](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/noel/32/75202_2.png) [@Noel](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Noel)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/17 "2019-08-13T14:43:21Z")

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This thread is definitely of interest, I wonder if this bill will pass this fall?

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**Author:** ![DakenX](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dakenx/32/173855_2.png) [@DakenX](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DakenX)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 3:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/18 "2019-09-04T03:01:38Z")

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hi, has the new session open already? any news about it yet?

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 3:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/19 "2019-09-04T03:37:14Z")

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> [@DakenX](#):
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> hi, has the new session open already?

I believe the legislative yuan met yesterday to determine when the new session is to begin.

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**Author:** ![shiadoa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/shiadoa/32/10295_2.png) [@shiadoa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/shiadoa)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-economic-immigration-bill/172539/20 "2019-09-04T03:39:55Z")

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Hiring a home help / career would potentially give a tax allowance of an extra 120,000 ?🤔 . They may specify “ overseas “ helper … so we can all care for each other 🙂

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