🆔 New format for ARC/APRC number is not accepted--testing and reporting thread

slawa · December 9, 2020, 3:31am

I want to start a new thread where people report websites/services/places where the new ID number format could not be used.
Btw. the idea by NIA to change the format was for it to be accepted at more online services.

Discussion about new ID format can be done here

MoI changed the ID Number format

What is the new ARC/APRC ID number format?

https://www.immigration.gov.tw/5385/7445/238440/243278/243280/243320/
https://www.immigration.gov.tw/5385/7445/238440/243278/243280/243331/

Why wouldn’t the new ARC/APRC ID number format work?

It depends on the implementation of the ID validity check.
If the implementation is done properly then it should reject the new ID format as the old format only allows [1,2,A,B,C,D] in the second spot of the ID number. The new format for ARC/APRC will have 8 or 9 in the second spot.

Why do we need a thread about it?

The new ID format is coming beginning of 2021. If you need to update or replace your ARC/APRC it will have the new format!

If you had an ARC/APRC ID with old format it will still be printed on the new ARC/APRC somewhere and can be used in the next 10 years.
Not confirmed if foreign residents who get ARC for the first time will only have the new format.

We should should test as many websites/services as possible and contact them to fix their implementation if it fails. This will hopefully reduce the time the service is unavailable for foreign residents.

How to contribute?

Test a service/website that requires ID numbers. Most of the times it is not required to complete a registration, just fill the ID number field and let it verify. At this point, do not continue!
Report your result here. Inform them about the new foreign resident ID number format and that they need to fix the validity check.

DO NOT REGISTER AND USE A SERVICE WITH A GENERATED ID. THIS IS FRAUD.

The following ID can be used for test purposes, as it has been used as an example by government:

A900000016

NEW ID ISSUES AND SOLUTIONS

How to get NHI card with new ID?

Let your employer change your NHI and labor insurance payments to the new ID. Apply for a new NHI card a week or so later.

You or your employer should fill out the form here to ensure your labour insurance contributions are still registered to the same person, one copy should be sent to the Ministry of Labour (勞動部勞工保險局，臺北市中正區羅斯福路一段4號) and the other should be forwarded to the National Heath Insurance Bureau in your region (see form for addresses). Despite the claims that you don’t have to update your NHI card, I don’t really see how this is going to be possible, given that on the bottom of the form it says that your original NHI card will be cancelled when the new data is received, hence:

NHI card renewal (purportedly optional): This is relatively pain-free, simply go to the Post Office and ask to renew your NHI card, with your ARC and a photocopy of both sides, one photograph (most machines have a special setting for NHI card photos) and NT$200. You should receive your new card in 5 working days. And after you receive it, you can switch your NHI app card to the new one.

Stuff you need to do after you get the new format UI ARC | Translating Taiwan 台灣翻版

(FAQ) Regarding Tax-Filing Issue for Foreign Taxpayers with New UI No. (PDF)

https://www.immigration.gov.tw/5385/7445/238440/243278/243280/264618/

slawa · December 9, 2020, 3:33am

Ruten does not verify new ID format.

fifieldt · December 9, 2020, 4:10am

PChome Myname does not verify the new ID format.

The javascript function chk_pid checks for a 1 or 2 in the second position:

function chk_pid() {
    var uid = arguments[0];
    var msg_alert = (arguments[1]) ? true : false;
    uid = uid.toUpperCase();
    if (!uid.match(/^[A-Z][12][0-9]{8}$/)) return (msg_alert) ? alert("頨思遢霅㗇聢撘譍�齿迤蝣綽�") : false;
    if (uid == "A123456789") return (msg_alert) ? alert("隢贝撓�交迤蝣箄澈隞質�匧�𡑒���") : false;
    var eng2num = [1, 10, 19, 28, 37, 46, 55, 64, 39, 73, 82, 2, 11, 20, 48, 29, 38, 47, 56, 65, 74, 83, 21, 3, 12, 30];
    var uidsum = eng2num[uid.charCodeAt(0) - 65];
    for (var i = 1; i < 10; i++) uidsum += parseInt(uid.charAt(i)) * ((9 - i) ? (9 - i) : 1);
    if (uidsum % 10) return (msg_alert) ? alert("�函�頨思遢霅匧�𡑒���㕑炊,隢𧢲䰻��衤�銝�!!\n") : false;

    return uid;
}

fifieldt · December 9, 2020, 4:24am

104.com.tw does not verify the new ID format

the javascript function isValidIdentity checks for a 1 or a 2 in the second position

    isValidIdentity: function(t) {
        return !!b(t) && !(t.length < 6 || t.length > 20) && (!a.test(t) || function(t) {
            if (!t) return !1;
            var n = t.substring(0, 1).toUpperCase(),
                e = p[n];
            if (void 0 === e) return !1;
            var r = t.charAt(1);
            if ("1" !== r && "2" !== r) return !1;
            for (var o = e + t.substring(1), i = 0, a = 0; a < o.length; a += 1) i += parseInt(o.charAt(a), 10) * m[a];
            return i % 10 == 0
        }(t))
    },

fifieldt · December 9, 2020, 4:29am

the Taiwan HSR online booking system does not validate the new format.

fifieldt · December 9, 2020, 4:38am

The Taiwan Railways Administration online booking system does not validate the new format.

The javascript function twid checks for a 1 or a 2 in the second position.

$.validator.addMethod("twid", function(id, element) {

	if (id == null || id == '') { // æ¬¡è™•åªæª¢æŸ¥æ ¼å¼æ˜¯å¦ç¬¦åˆï¼Œä¸æª¢æŸ¥æ˜¯å¦å¿…å¡«(å¯¦ååˆ¶å®šç¥¨æœ‰ä¸éœ€è¦å¿…å¡«çš„ç‹€æ³)
		return true;
	}
	// å»ºç«‹å—æ¯åˆ†æ•¸é™£åˆ—(A~Z)
	var city = new Array(1, 10, 19, 28, 37, 46, 55, 64, 39, 73, 82, 2, 11, 20,
			48, 29, 38, 47, 56, 65, 74, 83, 21, 3, 12, 30)
	id = id.toUpperCase();

	// ä½¿ç”¨ã€Œæ£è¦è¡¨é”å¼ã€æª¢é©—æ ¼å¼
	if (id.search(/^[A-Z](1|2)\d{8}$/i) == -1) {
		// console.log('åŸºæœ¬æ ¼å¼éŒ¯èª¤');
		return false;
	} else {
		// å°‡å—ä¸²åˆ†å‰²ç‚ºé™£åˆ—(IEå¿…éœ€é€™éº¼åšæ‰ä¸æœƒå‡ºéŒ¯)
		id = id.split('');
		// è¨ˆç®—ç¸½åˆ†
		var total = city[id[0].charCodeAt(0) - 65];
		for (var i = 1; i <= 8; i++) {
			total += eval(id[i]) * (9 - i);
		}
		// è£œä¸Šæª¢æŸ¥ç¢¼(æœ€å¾Œä¸€ç¢¼)
		total += eval(id[9]);
		// æª¢æŸ¥æ¯”å°ç¢¼(é¤˜æ•¸æ‡‰ç‚º0);
		return ((total % 10 == 0));
	}
});

SuperS54 · December 9, 2020, 5:19am

Don’t they have a statement that alien residents should put their ARC or passport number in the “Passport No.” box? The current ARC no. certainly works in that field. It’s poorly implemented/worded but not entirely correct to say the system does not accept ARC numbers.

Marco · December 9, 2020, 5:21am

If that was the case, they would have to code for every country and territory’s individual passsport numbers, or simply leave no checks as an open form.

SuperS54 · December 9, 2020, 5:27am

fifieldt · December 9, 2020, 5:30am

The point of the government’s exercise (and those organisations backing the move) is to see ARC IDs accepted wherever ROC IDs are to provide “dignity” for every day life. ARC is a type of ROC ID, so it should work when entered in the box. A caveat-note to enter an ARC ID in a box with another label related to a different kind of identity doesn’t reach those objectives, so still reportable IMO.

Marco · December 9, 2020, 5:32am

Put the ARC number into the passport field

SuperS54 · December 9, 2020, 5:33am

As per previous

SuperS54 · December 9, 2020, 5:41am

Does the government actually say that is the point of the exercise? From the blurb on the immigration department website they state;

In a nut shell the policy change is due to complaints that foreign national couldn’t use various services due to the different number formats. In reaction to those complaints the number format has been changed to a “new UI no.” blah blah blah.

No where does it state that the " is to see ARC IDs accepted wherever ROC IDs are to provide “dignity” for every day life.". It may be somewhat implied however you cannot apply Western thinking to this .

They do not state this is the purpose, only that the number will change (and specifically state the different format). The number will change, therefore the project was a success!! Yeh!!!

fifieldt · December 9, 2020, 5:43am

Shall we move this discussion back to the other thread to keep this one clean for reporting the sites?

The government announcement references the ECCT paper which is where the ‘dignity’ phrase comes from.

SuperS54 · December 9, 2020, 5:44am

Should do.

tando · December 9, 2020, 5:59am

Isn’t it the right thing until Jan. 2 next year?

slawa · December 9, 2020, 5:59am

Yes, from this point new ARC/APRC will have new ID format.

I doubt any of those companies have a plan to enable the new format on that date. We want to spread the word.

Keep in mind:

If you had an ARC/APRC ID with old format it will still be printed on the new ARC/APRC somewhere and can be used in the next 10 years.
Not confirmed if foreign residents who get ARC for the first time will only have the new format.

tempogain · December 9, 2020, 6:24am

I’d rather not move posts from here into public areas of the forum (I’d have to get everyone’s OK). I suggest keeping ordinary discussion there in the future, and keep this thread focused on this specific and helpful task, thanks.

SuperS54 · December 9, 2020, 7:20am

New Taipei City Police Traffic Offense Reporting Site, does not accept the new number format, although it does provide a “work around” whereby ARC holders need to upload a scan of their ARC. Stated reason was that ARC holders do not have a Hukou therefore their identity could not be verified…新北市政府警察局交通警察大隊 Traffic Police Corps, New Taipei City Police Dep交通違規檢舉系統

The Highways police reporting system does appear to accept the new number format and it does not accept the current format, despite repeated complaints.

https://www.hpb.gov.tw/p/412-1000-116.php?Lang=zh-tw

Taipei City Police Traffic Reporting system does accept the current format however does not accept the new format… 檢舉資料填寫 | 臺北市交通違規檢舉專區 (tcpd.gov.tw)

slawa · December 9, 2020, 7:44am

Here is the code (Taiwan ID and old ARC format only):

https://prsweb.tcpd.gov.tw/js/chunk-529d1455.528a6c78.js

if (/[A-Z]{1}[1-2]{1}[0-9]{8}/.test(e)) {
	a += n[t.indexOf(e[0])];
	for (var o = 1, s = 8; o < 9; o++, s--) a += parseInt(e[o]) * s;
	return (a = (10 - (a % 10)) % 10), a == parseInt(e[9]);
}
if (/[A-Z]{1}[A-D]{1}[0-9]{8}/.test(e)) {
	(a = i[t.indexOf(e[0])]), (a += r[t.indexOf(e[1])]);
	for (var l = 2, u = 7; l < 9; l++, u--) a += parseInt(e[l]) * u;
	return (a = (10 - (a % 10)) % 10), a == parseInt(e[9]);
}