New rules for suspending NHI when abroad

[justintaiwan]

@Hayashi

Does the law not require mandatory payments into national pension (國民年金）for unemployed people with household registration?

Sort of but it’s more like you don’t pay you don’t benefit. If you don’t pay you just get withdrawn from the system.

Article 17

The insurance periods will not be calculated if the insured person fails to pay the premium and interests payable within deadline under Article 13 and Article 14.The insured person is not entitled to request for paying the premium and interests if the delay is over 10 years. However, the insured person is still entitled to request for paying the premium and interests and calculating his or her insurance periods if the cause of delay cannot be blamed on the insured person.

[Hayashi]

@justintaiwan

@Hayashi

If you could say to the HHR office, “I am moving out of Taiwan next week for several years. Terminate, i.e. move out, my HHR as of my flight date.”, then would that immediately remove your NHI payment obligation, as long as you continue to stay out of Taiwan?

I would also like to know if this is possible.

I found this earlier discussion, where it seems that if you have already left the country, then you can apply online to move out of your HHR.

Implications of joining household register

About the original question regarding implications of having the friend register someone else in his HHR: From reading some of the application forms, it seems that there might be a minor implication that if the only people on the HHR are you and your friend, and your friend later moves to a new address (either within Taiwan, or overseas), then you might become the “head of household” of the old address, unless you also move your HHR to a new address. On a slightly different topic, following…

I don’t know if they allow you to apply for this in advance before leaving the country. It might be prohibited, because it is easy for the government to verify if you have already left the country, but harder or impossible to verify your plans to leave the country.

[mamapanda]

@Hayashi

I found this earlier discussion, where it seems that if you have already left the country, then you can apply online to move out of your HHR.

This is amazing. Thank you for your help @Hayashi! This kind of info is weirdly hard to find

[ackeh]

According to NHI law article 8 (https://law.moj.gov.tw/LawClass/LawAll.aspx?pcode=L0060001&kw=健保) it says anyone that has ROC registration and those that has household registration (one of the additional criteria) must have/pay NHI.

So legally speaking, using a foreign passport to come into Taiwan (if dual citizen with household registration), you can’t get out of it.

Has anyone here tried coming into Taiwan with a foreign passport (with already existing/active household registration)?

[Taiwan_Luthiers]

Entering Taiwan on a foreign passport doesn’t change your household registration status, so you’ll still be on the hook for NHI