# 🏮 New Taipei City | Jiufen

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301>\
**Category:** Taiwan Travel\
**Tags:** jiufen, new-taipei-city\
**Created:** [August 28, 2001, 12:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301 "2001-08-28T00:38:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 4

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**Author:** ![cdn1234](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/cdn1234/32/202817_2.png) [@cdn1234](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/cdn1234)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/62 "2023-05-15T06:26:33Z")

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> [@zaowangyeh](#):
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> but I recall the teapots were highly priced.

when i last visited, I found the tea generally good but overpriced. Probably wouldn’t get a teapot there tho.

I enjoyed walking around it even though it was a bit busy. Bit really drinking tea with the view down over the cloudy mountains was pretty nice. So I really enjoyed that.

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**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:26am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/63 "2023-05-15T06:26:58Z")

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> [@the\_bear](#):
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> No I mean official tourist old streets.

Yes that’s what I mean too.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/64 "2023-05-15T06:27:23Z")

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If it’s darker than maybe we don’t notice the rats as much :whistle:

Reminds me of Feng Chia night market…yeah popular night market but people like to dump their trash anywhere even though there’s like 6-8 convenience stores in the area and trash bins. I think it’s better these days. I think it started getting better after the news reported how people just start dumping all their trash in front of the school’s main gate. The pile would get pretty big.

Pretty sure lots of students and tourists still just dump their trash at the bus stops near the school though. See some big rats crawling out from time to time there to grab a bite to eat and run away between the legs of everyone waiting for the bus.

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**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/65 "2023-05-15T06:28:14Z")

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> [@bdog](#):
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> The comment in the original post about the off smelling drain could be anywhere in Taiwan really.

I haven’t run into that issue here in Kaohsiung, but it’s very bad in central Tainan.

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**Author:** ![lunlan](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/lunlan/32/21391_2.png) [@lunlan](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/lunlan)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:32am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/66 "2023-05-15T06:32:56Z")

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I think it used to be much worse although these past 4-5 years I either notice it less or it’s gotten better. That’s how I “knew” I was back in Taiwan. Got off the plane took the bus to the city and first thing you smell is the sewage.

As for Taichung it’s definitely better downtown…used to be pretty bad and messy. The area that’s now the 新盛綠川水岸廊道 Shin Sei Green Waterway is way better than before and now people actually like to hangout in the area and even attracts people to come and take pictures or just chill out and relax. It also doesn’t have that nasty smell anymore.

Ironically enough it was simply a restoration project to change it back to more what it was like during the Japanese colonial period.

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**Author:** ![Wilsonckao](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Wilsonckao](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Wilsonckao)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/67 "2023-05-15T06:34:05Z")

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Wheres the cable car and mrt connection? That’s what its been missing

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**Author:** ![user86](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/2acd7d/32.png) [@user86](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/user86)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/68 "2023-05-15T06:34:33Z")

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> [@lunlan](#):
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> Shin Sei Green Waterway is way better than before and now people actually like to hangout in the area

That’s the only part of Taichung I’ve been to, and I enjoyed it.

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**Author:** ![lunlan](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/lunlan/32/21391_2.png) [@lunlan](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/lunlan)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/69 "2023-05-15T06:39:32Z")

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Yeah, cleaning up the area and making it quieter and more relaxed/chilled turned out great. I think more areas could benefit from something similar.

Some friends that I’ve met in other cities that have only been to downtown Taichung area all have similar feelings to you, they liked that area. Buy some ice cream at Miyahara and take a seat and relax.

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:45am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/70 "2023-05-15T06:45:25Z")

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And yet 95% of Taichung’s rivers and streams are open sewers running through the city. And I mean through the most expensive districts too.

Lazy govt just fixes up a tiny part of the waterways/concrete storm drains. I actually think they should cover them over and put some parks on top and cycle ways they are that bad.

There’s a few really vile ones in Kaohsiung as well.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 6:52am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/71 "2023-05-15T06:52:43Z")

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It’s getting better… It’s something at least. On some of the bridges/crossings they only made space for vehicles so pedestrians would have to squeeze in and walk across. In areas they’ve redone so far they have widened them and made sidewalks or a whole separate crossing right next to intersection.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 8:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/72 "2023-05-15T08:28:35Z")

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> [@mad\_masala](#):
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> Then I would also ban loudspeakers on the streets, those that play some marketing bullshit in a loop in front of some stores.

I hate, hate, **HATE** those damn things! I swear, so many times I came _this close_ to stealing/breaking those obnoxious megaphones. I don’t encounter them nearly as often as I did a few years ago–thankfully–at least not in Taoyuan.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/73 "2023-05-15T14:13:37Z")

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Jiufen has been a hoe since I first visited around 15 years ago. Seems to have improved a bit and still worth a visit since then but generally still shithole. Avoid crowded times and can feel better.

Now they have cruise ships pulling up with 4000 passengers and few other choices for a day trip.

Just spent a couple nights there during some special after-lantern festival.

> [@izakaya\_lantern New Taipei City | Jiufen](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/24):
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> Definitely worth a visit even if been to Jiufen many times. Why? Because lots more Red Lanterns than usual. Lots of Japanese speaking tourists must be big tour groups. Dates so far this year 25 Feb - 26 Mar 2023.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/74 "2023-05-15T14:37:35Z")

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> [@Jiufen 2023 - old charm destroyed by over tourism, lack of maintenance, stingyness](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/jiufen-2023-old-charm-destroyed-by-over-tourism-lack-of-maintenance-stingyness/230243/39):
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> > [@the\_bear](#):
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> > No I mean official tourist old streets.
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> Yes that’s what I mean too.

Do they differ from old tourist streets? I’m thinking Wanhua

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/75 "2023-05-15T14:39:49Z")

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> [@BiggusDickus](#):
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> Do they differ from old tourist streets?

I don’t know. Depends on what you mean by that. You just switched a few words around.

I don’t know what Wanhua is.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/76 "2023-05-15T14:43:22Z")

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> [@Jiufen 2023 - old charm destroyed by over tourism, lack of maintenance, stingyness](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/jiufen-2023-old-charm-destroyed-by-over-tourism-lack-of-maintenance-stingyness/230243/51):
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> > [@BiggusDickus](#):
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> > Do they differ from old tourist streets?
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> I don’t know. Depends on what you mean by that. You just switched a few words around.
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> I don’t know what Wanhua is.

I don’t know either.

I apologise for switching words around.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/77 "2023-05-16T01:27:38Z")

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By Old Street I mean a clearly delineated single street full of meat on a stick and candy floss.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/78 "2023-05-16T01:36:07Z")

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> [@the\_bear](#):
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> By Old Street I mean a clearly delineated single street full of meat on a stick and candy floss.

In that case, yes. That’s what I meant by Old Street, too.

In the south, there is Anping Old Street and Yongkang Old Street in Tainan (and perhaps Shennong Street but I’m not sure if that counts); Cishan Old Street and Meinong Yong’an Old Street (and perhaps others) in Kaohsiung; and several in Pingtung county (Fengtian Old Street, Xi Sheng Old Street, Yangjiyuan Old Street, and Hengchun Old Street).

And of course there are old streets in central Taiwan as well, but I’m not as familiar with them. I only know Lukang Old Street in Changhua county.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 4:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/79 "2023-05-16T04:38:27Z")

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Jiufen at night , with the sunset and later is quite charming after the crowds go away. Spectacular view from up there. Also early morning.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 4:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/80 "2023-05-16T04:39:10Z")

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> [@Jiufen 2023 - old charm destroyed by over tourism, lack of maintenance, stingyness](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/jiufen-2023-old-charm-destroyed-by-over-tourism-lack-of-maintenance-stingyness/230243/53):
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> Old Street I mean a clearly delineated single street full of meat on a stick and candy floss

Ye Olde Street Taiwanese style. Don’t forget some stinky dofu wedged at the end.

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**Post date:** [May 16, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/new-taipei-city-jiufen/301/81 "2023-05-16T04:41:54Z")

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I’m spamming here I know.  
But Kenting hasn’t changed one fecking iota since I first visited over 20 years ago. That place is a time warp stuck in a time warp.

What is it with Taiwan the ‘hot spots’ just don’t seem to change at all. They just keep doing the same ole thing. Kenting is just such a fecking embarrassment of a tourist destination.

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